small dog – LAX to ELP RT
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I wonder what precautions are taken by owners of show dogs that fly to >shows > several times or more per year. Think of the hundreds (thousands?) of top >dogs > that converge on New York City for the Westminister Dog Show. There must >be a > safe way to fly with your dog. >I would suspect most of them drive – or if they have the money, arrange some >type of charter air transportation. >I suspect most dogs which are shipped as checked luggage in the cargo hold >arrive safely, but I’ve been on a flight where a dog passed (see below) plus >I’ve heard many horror stories about dogs not surviving flights. As far as >the cause, I don’t know if they’re being put in cargo holds which don’t have >enough oxygen, or perhaps the cargo hold is either too cold in fight .. or >in cases of ground delays too hot. Additionally, I suspect it places a lot >of stress on most dogs to transport them by air. >As mentioned above, I was on a flight once where a lady transported her dog >as cargo and upon arrival the dog had passed. The owner started crying, >screaming, and threw a fit after finding out in the baggage area (as I was >waiting for my luggage) and the airline ended up calling airport police to >deal with her (The police talked to her / calmed her down from what I saw). >This was about 4 years ago on a fall day (warm, but not hot outside at both >the origin [LAX] and destination). At the origination airport (LAX), I >saw the dog while the lady was checking in with it, and the dog appeared to >be healthy and well. The airline tagged the kennel the dog was in and then >the skycap people took it back on a cart. >I do know some people sedate their dogs for air transportation, which can be >dangerous – and if not done properly can cause harm to a dog (or cat) as >well. I don’t know if the dog was given sedation or not. The dog looked >like it was a Rotwieler(sp) and was of pretty good size. (My medium sized >beagle is 30 lbs, so I’d guess this dog was probably at least 50-60 lbs). >As such, I don’t know what happened, but I feel sorry for the lady this >happened to. She was a wreck after finding out her dog had died enroute. >After my luggage came down the belt I got my luggage and left, so I don’t >know what happened after that. I doubt she was arrested or anything after I >left, but she had managed to calm down and was talking with the police when >I left the airport. >As I don’t know how or why the dog died in the cargo hold (i.e. fault of >airline, OD from sedation, or other causes) I’m not going to name the >airline or the final destination… (the final destination would likely give >the airline name away). However, it was very sad to see this and I’ll >admit I was even upset as a bystander. >If I recall correctly, the aircraft on this flight as a 757 … as far as >the cargo holds on the 757, I would presume they are pressurized and have >temperature control. As far as the flight, it was somewhere around 3 hours >long, so it wasn’t a very long flight .. but it wasn’t a short 1 hr hop >either. The only thing I can do is speculate as to the cause, but after >seeing this, I would never transport my own dog on a plane in the cargo >hold. >Regards, >Steve
Can I just stress what Steve said, that I have also heard that it can be very dangerous to sedate dogs when they are to travel by air, even though it seems a kind thing to do. I believe that most airliners have both pressurised and non pressurised/heated holds, so it is important that no mistakes are made in the loading of live animals. I also understand that the cockpit crew have control over the temperature in the holds, so it is important that they don’t overlook the maintaining of a comfortable temperature there. I would transport my dogs by air, but only if it was absolutely necessary, if nothing else it must be a frightening experience. God knows it’s bad enough for passengers 
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Did you pay for the Southwest tickets already? Might be cheaper to bay a dog sitter than to rebook. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > We’re booked on Southwest and I just found our sitter is unavailable so > we’re considering flying our small dog with us. Southwest does not do pets > so who does, and how much you think? Any recommendations? > Thanks, > *TOM
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I wonder what precautions are taken by owners of show dogs that fly to shows several times or more per year. Think of the hundreds (thousands?) of top dogs that converge on New York City for the Westminister Dog Show. There must be a safe way to fly with your dog. << I would not, under any circumstances, let your dog go via cargo on an airplane (I’ve seen people whom do this with larger dogs, and the results are, at times, disasterous). I have a medium sized dog, which is too big to go in an airplane cabin and I would never, under any circumstances, transport my dog by airplane (cargo). Luckily I have family which watches after my dog when I travel and the worst case scenario, she goes to the kennel for a few days. Even if my dog was small enough to go into an airplane cabin, I could just see her signing the whole way (I have a Beagle mix) Regards, Steve >>
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> I wonder what precautions are taken by owners of show dogs that fly to shows > several times or more per year. Think of the hundreds (thousands?) of top dogs > that converge on New York City for the Westminister Dog Show. There must be a > safe way to fly with your dog.
I would suspect most of them drive – or if they have the money, arrange some type of charter air transportation. I suspect most dogs which are shipped as checked luggage in the cargo hold arrive safely, but I’ve been on a flight where a dog passed (see below) plus I’ve heard many horror stories about dogs not surviving flights. As far as the cause, I don’t know if they’re being put in cargo holds which don’t have enough oxygen, or perhaps the cargo hold is either too cold in fight .. or in cases of ground delays too hot. Additionally, I suspect it places a lot of stress on most dogs to transport them by air. As mentioned above, I was on a flight once where a lady transported her dog as cargo and upon arrival the dog had passed. The owner started crying, screaming, and threw a fit after finding out in the baggage area (as I was waiting for my luggage) and the airline ended up calling airport police to deal with her (The police talked to her / calmed her down from what I saw). This was about 4 years ago on a fall day (warm, but not hot outside at both the origin [LAX] and destination). At the origination airport (LAX), I saw the dog while the lady was checking in with it, and the dog appeared to be healthy and well. The airline tagged the kennel the dog was in and then the skycap people took it back on a cart. I do know some people sedate their dogs for air transportation, which can be dangerous – and if not done properly can cause harm to a dog (or cat) as well. I don’t know if the dog was given sedation or not. The dog looked like it was a Rotwieler(sp) and was of pretty good size. (My medium sized beagle is 30 lbs, so I’d guess this dog was probably at least 50-60 lbs). As such, I don’t know what happened, but I feel sorry for the lady this happened to. She was a wreck after finding out her dog had died enroute. After my luggage came down the belt I got my luggage and left, so I don’t know what happened after that. I doubt she was arrested or anything after I left, but she had managed to calm down and was talking with the police when I left the airport. As I don’t know how or why the dog died in the cargo hold (i.e. fault of airline, OD from sedation, or other causes) I’m not going to name the airline or the final destination… (the final destination would likely give the airline name away). However, it was very sad to see this and I’ll admit I was even upset as a bystander. If I recall correctly, the aircraft on this flight as a 757 … as far as the cargo holds on the 757, I would presume they are pressurized and have temperature control. As far as the flight, it was somewhere around 3 hours long, so it wasn’t a very long flight .. but it wasn’t a short 1 hr hop either. The only thing I can do is speculate as to the cause, but after seeing this, I would never transport my own dog on a plane in the cargo hold. Regards, Steve
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>We’re booked on Southwest and I just found our sitter is unavailable so >we’re considering flying our small dog with us. Southwest does not do pets >so who does, and how much you think? Any recommendations?
Is that sitter the ONLY recourse? You didn’t say how long you would be away. If it isn’t too long, perhaps you can find someone else or — worst case scenario — put dog in a kennel. I hate to suggest that. but it might — depending on your length of stay and the cost of flying a dog — be a workable trade-off. — Polar
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>We’re booked on Southwest and I just found our sitter is unavailable so >we’re considering flying our small dog with us. Southwest does not do pets >so who does, and how much you think? Any recommendations? > Is that sitter the ONLY recourse? You didn’t say how long you would > be away. If it isn’t too long, perhaps you can find someone else or > — worst case scenario — put dog in a kennel. I hate to suggest > that. but it might — depending on your length of stay and the cost of > flying a dog — be a workable trade-off.
Depending on the length of your stay, a kennel may be a better option than flying with the dog, IMHO. Could potentially be less stressful for the dog to stay at the kennel instead of taking a flight – but you know your dog the best (to the original poster). On the other hand, if you’ve flown with your dog before and prefer to take that route, I would suggest another airline such as Delta which will let you take your dog on the plane and store it under the seat in a small cage. Be sure to check with the airline on what the requirements are to bring the dog in the cabin with you prior to purchasing a new ticket on another carrier. With Southwest, you should be able to cancel your tickets and use the value of your tickets for another trip within 1 year (be sure to verify this). As such, if you want to take the dog with, cancel the Southwest flights (use the ticket value later unless you have refundable tickets), and re-book your trip on another carrier that allows pets in the passenger cabin. I would not, under any circumstances, let your dog go via cargo on an airplane (I’ve seen people whom do this with larger dogs, and the results are, at times, disasterous). I have a medium sized dog, which is too big to go in an airplane cabin and I would never, under any circumstances, transport my dog by airplane (cargo). Luckily I have family which watches after my dog when I travel and the worst case scenario, she goes to the kennel for a few days. Even if my dog was small enough to go into an airplane cabin, I could just see her signing the whole way (I have a Beagle mix) Regards, Steve
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HP does SMALL (small is relative) dogs for $50 each way. (how much would it cost to BOARD the pup?) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We’re booked on Southwest and I just found our sitter is unavailable so > we’re considering flying our small dog with us. Southwest does not do pets > so who does, and how much you think? Any recommendations? > Thanks, > *TOM
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We’re booked on Southwest and I just found our sitter is unavailable so we’re considering flying our small dog with us. Southwest does not do pets so who does, and how much you think? Any recommendations? Thanks, *TOM
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> We’re booked on Southwest and I just found our sitter is unavailable > so we’re considering flying our small dog with us. Southwest does not > do pets so who does, and how much you think? Any recommendations? > Thanks, > *TOM
most carriers will accept small dogs (less than 15 check airline for exact rules as they differ from airline to airline) in cabin if they have a soft sided kennel (sherpa bag is the original) they charge around 80-100 one way and you must have a health certificate from your vet. Delta will do it and they have a fare of $194 going right now.
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