is there a "does it all" collar?
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Hello roo,
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What a bunch of wanna-be comedians we have here. > newsgroups are not (supposed) to be about a bunch > of smart ass remarks; but if you regulars here want to > drag down the usefulness of your group I guess that’s not > my problem. > If you want to express your opinion that "they don’t exist because > cause that’s just more control than one should have over their pet" > then go ahead and express it. At least you answered the question > that they don’t exhist. > Hi Steve, > You got the message these posters were putting across, so they did manage to > communicate to you.
What message, roo? You and your Thug pal diana had NOTHING but sarcasm to offer our OP’s legitimate questions. > You are also making some unwarranted assumptions about how these people > bring up their dogs –
Oh? Let’s just talk about that??? THAT’S HOWE COME you organize killfile Jerry campaigns. > for all you know, we may beat our dogs regularly and > bellow ‘NO’ at them at every available opportunity.
As PROVEN. Don’t think you’re gonna get away with bullshittin us noMOORE. > And you didn’t really tell us much when you asked your original question.
Oh? The questions were quite clear. The only confusion is, you ain’t got no LIES to respond with. > Now you have told us more, I will give you more of an answer.
MOORE? He’s told us MOORE? He’s added NUTHING except mentions you didn’t have any ADVICE or INFORMATION for him. You’re a lying dog abusing Thug. > Personally, I would not leave any dog unattended in a yard/garden for long
periods. BECAUSE YOU CAN’T TRAIN THE DOG NOT TO DO THE THINGS THE OP ASKED ABOUT!!! Get outta here you miserable lying dog abusing Thug. > Dogs are very good at escaping,
Cut the crap. Dogs ESCAPE when they’re MISTREATED. > whatever method you use to try to confine them.
EXCEPT TRAINING, roo. My methods BORDER trains dogs in MINUTES, roo. > Most of the loose dogs I have caught and returned to their owners have > escaped because they have been left unattended in their yards.
No, they excaped cause they were ANXIOUS or mistreated or UNTRAINED. > You also haven’t given any info on how you intend to train your dogs with
an e-collar. IMBECILE!!! He intends to HURT the dog for thinking of RUNNING AWAY. He’s going to BOND with his dog by frying his ass within an inch of his life… you miserable lying dog abusing Thug. > People who have used them for many years stress that they should > be used with great care, and that they are not a ‘quick fix’.
That’s another LIE, roo. Ask fraudreck. He’ll border train the dog in about ten minutes, just like Jerry’s students do. Ask Paul. Ask Misty. > Usage of an e-collar involves a greater investment of time than not using
one, according to Ludwig, ludwig? ludwig is another dog abuser, like yourself and your pals here, roo. > while others have noted that they can be abused by inexperienced people.
No roo. That’s the BIG LIE. Only ABUSERS shock dogs. > That’s one reason why you will tend not to get a helpful answer if > you ask the sort of question you asked.
NO. The reason he won’t get a TRUTHFUL answer is cause "trainers" who NEED to jerk and choke and shock dogs don’t have the intellect to outwit the cunning of the domestic puppy dog, or they wouldn’t NEED to HURT them in the first place. Would they, roo? Just answer that, and we’ll say good bye and you can get the heel outta here. > Your question did not really inspire confidence in you as a user, IMHO.
Oh, is it cause he"s bright enough to outwit the cunning of his puppy dog IF he listens to Jerry? > Alikat
You’d better WARN him my methods are DANGEROUS and INEFFECTIVE, like you did Misty that got her dog Peach DEAD. Thanks to you, roo. Chris Williams writes:
"The FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what I’ve always done without thinking of it as "training". New stuff, I’ve used. His anchoring technique erased the last of Mac’s fireworks trauma,"
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. > Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no > collars. > Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to > come back in the yard and would run for days. The > last time, Peach didn’t come back home. > I used the Wit’s End Training Manual to learn how to > train my dog. She is now border trained. A few > minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in the > yard. > She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her > from chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we > walk around the yard. > I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the > e-fence and its collars. If you can’t get a regular fence > then you need to train your dog. I will never rely on an > electronic collar to keep my dog in our yard again. > The price was too high:-( > ~misty
> I haven’t quite finished reading the FREE Wits’ End > Dog Training Method manual, but it already worked > miracles with our three dogs > The barking at the door has diminished so much that, > well, frankly, we’re stunned. > Anyway, your approach is amazing. > Melisand
Hi, Jerry. I’m not sure that I’m a 100% convert, or that I agree with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this manual … BUT … we had "come" down pat in a few reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber ball at my feet on command. He’s still not perfect (just a pup, after all, and he’s stubborn enough to want to push and test me a little bit more). For what it’s worth, I can see (as no doubt you have) how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even if that was the only method that would work, I’d live with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that. (Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively, tho’). Best, ben
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Bollocks, the manual has no dangerous suggestions at > all, people who find the manual useful are those that > don’t need to control a dog to satisfy their own ego > but simply want a well behaved dog that is easy to > live with. I would suggest the people who follow the > advice in his manual are people who have already > tried other inefficient methods and are fed up with > the poor results. > The more I think about the methods he suggests the > more sense it makes, the biggest problem is people > believe they have to be in control of the dog, tell it > whats right and wrong, dogs don’t understand > our values and I don’t believe they are capable of > understanding them either, so to train them we use > methods they understand. That means abstract > training, doing sometimes what appears to > almost be the opposite of what makes sense to us. > If you are purely result orientated then you will not > find Jerry’s manual much use, if you love your dogs > and love to work WITH them then his manual is > your dream come true. Distraction and praise works > with any dog, when you sit back and really think about > it, it’s very obvious why. > When a dog is properly distracted (and praised) of a > particular behaviour then that behaviour very quickly > becomes unfulfilling so the dog will no longer have any > interest in pursuing it, whether we are about or not, > thats the key to stopping garbage can raids and food > stealing etc etc, no force, no bad dog, just distracting it > in an appropriate manner that it no longer wishes to > pursue that behaviour. > Better than hiding the garbage can eh? > Paul
Re: Barking Deterrants Needed… Hi. Please understand that I do not know Jerry and have spoken with him briefly once by email. I have no stake or interest in the success of his business. I simply want to thank him publicly for one of his tips, with regards to separation anxiety. I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed animal and then say good bye to my own dog, but I am usually a very open minded person, so I tried it. Well, lo and behold- the damn trick worked! I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes him is not understanding his logic. Thank you Jerry! Jeremy, a pet professional writes: "A customer recently purchased a Shiba Inu and I suspect she may be in for a wild ride. This is a breed that I suspect may respond particularly well to mutual respect style training. The alpha complex (as I now call it) is likely to really provoke the dog’s naturally competitive nature. Thanks 1000 times for opening my eyes and don’t let those assholes get you down. I can’t be the only person that sees the sense in your methods. I’m in Windsor, Ontario, Canada and pass your info to anyone it might help" Thanks, Jeremy. message – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I read up on rotties, pitbulls, etc., and quite a bit > of the literature suggested I needed to assert my > dominance and "make the dog earn everything it gets." > I tried this once or twice, just by taking a stern tone > of voice, and the results were terrible. > The pup got scared and just wanted to stay away from > me. That’s why I support Jerry Howe and his FREE > Wits’ End Dog Training manual — that and the fact > that Jerry is an all-around great guy. > The core takeaway I got from Jerry’s manual is this: > make
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All your silly letters prove are that the net is full of hostile people desperate for dog help of ANY kind, jerrrrry howie. They dig your style! They think it means you know something in a world where hostility passes for authenticity. It means nothing of the kind, of course. It just means you are a coward. I’m betting your real face is meek. We should begin calling you "Uriah Heep". The kind of person you are is one who bullies in private. I fear for your dogs. Please EXPLAIN, jerry howe, how your thugish writing is GOOD FOR DOGS? It is not, or course. I challange you to post the address of your "training classes". I want to write to the newspaper in your town to check the truth of your claim you even have such classes. I also would like to hear your explanation of why hurting dogs’ ears with blasts of sound is more kind than shocking them with an electric collar (which i also hate). "Distraction" I think you call it? Hah! Dogs’ ears are extremly semsitive. You have just found a subtle way to bully dogs, haven’t you, Jerry? You have a LOT of nerve calling other people "Thugs", Jerry old boy. Please clear up these sincere questions for me. Lynne (not Lynn K…. as admirable as her work in rescue is…. shame on you, jerry howe.)
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Hello lee ann rucker, > Well, writing it did me a world of good.
But of course! > jerrrrry howe has invaded my competer like a virus.
No, robinandlynne is a liar and a dog abuser, and she’s upset cause Jerry called her attention to it. > Many kind folks have told me to use a kill file, but, alas,
Those kind folks was robinandlynn, on account of Jerry makes her conscience HURT, and that’s HOWE COME she LIES about Jerry, his manual, his methods, and his machine. > my computer is so old and/or disabled that the kill file does not work.
That’s hardly any moore likely true than anything else our lying dog abusing Thug robinandlynn has posted here, she’s a liar. > Kill files are amazingly old, and so are newsreaders – in fact,
Yeah, and the bottom line is, everyone who sez Jerry’s in their killfile, read Jerry’s posts first and reply to them before the html is dry. > reading it via Google is the *newest* way to get it.
AMAZING! > You should be able to find a newsreader for your computer, then all > you need is a news server – I’m sure Earthlink has one. What computer > & OS do you have?
I think she’s got the older kind that crashes when a static like stimulation is present…like when she burns her dog with her shock collar. Now get the heel outta here you lying dog abusing Thugs. Jerry. From Frank to lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn: "How fricken sick do you need to be to say a dog chooses to be shocked or pronged or shot in the ass with a sling shot? Chooses it over what? Are you twisted pieces of human refuse offering a dog a selection of torture devices, and observing them indicating their personal preference of pain infliction? I thought the whole idea behind aversion training was that the subject does not choose it. You Lynn thinking people are a bunch of abusive idiots. *YOU* choose to hurt dogs. Fine. But the fact that you want to sell the idea that the dogs that god and human society have entrusted, have gifted to you, are actually empowered by your abuse, is an example of sociopathic illogic beyond anything this ng has yet offered. You’re like some fricken wife beater who actually says "Don’t make me hit you, Bitch!" What part of what backwoods portion of which idiot nation do you people reside in? THE DOG CHOOSES? What is next? we have so far 1. I hurt dogs to save their lives. 2. I hurt dogs to save people’s lives. 3. I hurt dogs to accomodate their choice in being hurt. Just hurt the dogs and don’t try to explain it. Please, you’re scaring me with this stuff. No wonder why you guys get so bent out of shape when others speculate as to your motivation behind hurting dogs. Their speculation seems more plausable then what you yourself offer. You’re so sick, so drunk with your "tools" of power, that you don’t even see the abusive egoism in your explanations. You people are way far gone. It will be 20 years before you’ll be embarrassed or ashamed by what you write in here daily." And here’s a little of what Frank was talking about: "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens, But You’ll Get Over It." mike duforth, author: "Courteous Canine." "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is something you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro manure." > Jerome Bigge writes: > I do know that hitting, hurting your dog will often make the > dog either aggressive or a fear biter, neither of which we > want to do. > And neither does anyone else, Jerome. No matter what Jerry Howe > states. > –Matt. Rocky’s a Dog.
You’re scary Marilyn. Marilyn must be quite a disturbed individual. I feel very sorry for her and her family. BUT, giving you the benefit of the doubt, please provide a quote (an original quote, not from one of Jerry Howe’s heavily edited diatribes) that shows a regular poster promoting or using an abusive form of training. –Matt. Rocky’s a Dog. Here’s some quotes and some methods right outta your koehler book: The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York: Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)." Hanging "First, the trainer makes certain that the collar and leash are more than adequate for any jerk or strain that the dog’s most frantic actions could cause. Then he starts to work the dog deliberately and fairly to the point where the dog makes his grab. Before the teeth have reached their target, the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from the ground. As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems the dog is suspended in mid-air. However, to let the biting dog recover his footing while he still had the strength to renew the attack would be cruelty. The only justifiable course is to hold him suspended until he has neither the strength nor inclination to renew the fight. When finally it is obvious that he is physically incapable of expressing his resentment and is lowered to the ground, he will probably stagger loop-legged for a few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll over on his side. The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued, on his side, is not pleasant, but do not let it alarm you THE REAL "HOOD" "If your dog is a real "hood" who would regard the foregoing types of protest as "kid stuff" and would express his resentment of your efforts by biting, your problem is difficult — and pressing. "Professional trainers often get these extreme problems. Nearly always the "protest biter" is the handiwork of a person who, by avoiding situations that the dog might resent, has nurtured the seeds of rebellion and then cultivated the resultant growth with under correction. When these people reap their inevitable and oftentimes painful harvest, they are ready to avail themselves of "the cruel trainer" whose advice they may have once rejected because it was incompatible with the sugary droolings of mealy-mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies, and dog psychologists who, by the broken skins and broken hearts their misinformation causes, can be proven guilty of the greatest act of cruelty to animals since the dawn of time. "With more genuine compassion for the biting dog than would ever be demonstrated by those who are "too kind" to make a correction and certainly with more disregard for his safety, the professional trainer morally feels obligated to perform a "major operation." "Since we are presently concerned with the dog that bites in resentment of the demands of training, we will set our example in that situation. (In a later chapter we will deal with the with the much easier problem of the dog that bites someone other than his master." "The Koehler Method of Dog Training" Howell Book House," 1996 William Koehler "Housebreaking problems": Occasionally, there is a pup who seems determined to relieve himself inside the house, regardless of how often he has the opportunity to go outside. This dog may require punishment. Make certain he is equipped with a collar and piece of line so he can’t avoid correction. When you discover a mess, move in fast, take him to the place of his error, and hold his head close enough so that he associates his error with the punishment. Punish him by spanking him with a light strap or switch. Either one is better than a folded newspaper. It is important to your future relationship that you do not rush at him and start swinging before you get hold of him. When he’s been spanked, take him outside. Chances are, if you are careful in your feeding and close observation, you will not have to do much punishing. Be consistent in your handling. To have a pup almost house-broken and then force him to commit an error by not providing an opportunity to go outside is very unfair. Careful planning will make your job easier. The same general techniques of housebreaking apply to grown dogs that are inexperienced in the house. For the grown dog who was reliable in the house and then backslides, the method of correction differs somewhat. In this group of "backsliders" we have the "revenge piddler." This dog protests being alone by messing on the floor and often in the middle of a bed. The first step of correction is to confine the dog closely in a part of the house when you go away, so that he is constantly reminded of his obligation. The fact that he once was reliable in the house is proof that the dog knows right from wrong, and it leaves you no other course than to punish him sufficiently to convince him that the satisfaction of his wrongdoing is not worth the consequences. If the punishment is not severe enough, some of these "backsliders" will think they’re winning and will continue to mess in the house. An indelible impression can sometimes be made by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration, then leaving him tied by the mess he’s made so you can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish him again for the same thing. In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the light spanking that some owners seem to think is adequate punishment. It will be better for your dog, as well as the house, if you really pour it on him. Some of the new "breaking scents" on the market can aid in your house-breaking program. One type discourages the dog from even visiting an area. Another encourages him to relieve himself in the area where it is sprinkled. Your pet shop should be able to supply further information on the brands available in your district. Be fair to your dog in what and when you feed him and be consistent in your efforts to housebreak him, and you’ll soon accomplish the job. BARKING, WHINING, HOWLING, YODELING, SCREAMING, AND WAILING The fact that you realize … read more »
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> Well, writing it did me a world of good. jerrrrry howe has invaded my > competer like a virus. Many kind folks have told me to use a kill > file, but, alas, my computer is so old and/or disabled that the kill > file does not work.
Kill files are amazingly old, and so are newsreaders – in fact, reading it via Google is the *newest* way to get it. You should be able to find a newsreader for your computer, then all you need is a news server – I’m sure Earthlink has one. What computer & OS do you have?
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> All your silly letters prove are that the net is full of hostile > As much as I enjoyed that post,
Well then, you should really love my answers. > I can not help but to mention how wonderful kill files are!
Sure you can! But you won’t, on account of my INFORMATION SCARES you. It makes you look like a fool a liar and a dog abuser. > Do yourself a favor, robinandlynne, stick him in your kill file and you > will find that, suddenly, the newsgroups become > a peaceful and productive place again. . . (c;
Yes, where we jerk and choke and shock and kill dogs like tara o and ruthie just did to three Boxer Rescue dogs and your pal chrisman dinan just killed his "poster" pit bull and the rest of the dog killers we got here like janet boss and mikey ball. > You know that old saying about how a few people can screw things up for > everyone?
Well, we got moore than a few, but not too many for me to clean up. We’re rid of some of the worst offenders like lyingdogDUMMY and professora "chin CHUCK absolutely doesn’t mean slap" gingold and quite a few other lying dog abusing Thugs don’t or very seldom post anyMOORE. > WELL, jerry howe IS one of those few people.
Jerry Howe is the one who’s exposed our lying dog abusing gang of koehler and shock and prongeed spiked pinch choke collar fans. > Putting him in my kill file was one of the most productive things I have done > in a long time.
Good for you. Guilt will eat your heart out. > You will note that there are frequent posts to many newsgroups that > use the name "jerry howe" and the words "kill file" in the same sentence. > There is a reason for that!
Our lying dog abusing Thugs will do and say anything to cover up the truth, that’s the NATURE of a CONSPIRACY!!! >(c; Take the advice of many
Our dog chokers and shockers and killers… > and put him where he belongs. . . in your message filter! (c;
robyinandlynn are only interested in misleading people about my methods. Like yourself, she reads my posts and feels GUILT. That’s O.K. I EXPECT it to HURT like you bums HURT dogs. > It really is a shame. . .
INDEED. > because he does have some value that he can offer. . .
A great deal of information. Information that disturbes you. > it is just so encrusted with all of that. . . what ever you want to call
it. . . Truth. That’s what causes GUILT. > that it becomes not only totally useless but obtuse and destructive.
And you’d have to forget everything you thought you knew about dogs if Jerry’s right. And he is. And he’s proven it. > Mike Fry
Now get the heel outta here or put my manual on your website you miserable double talking beggar. j;~) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Animal Ark No-Kill Shelter > A no-kill shelter because pets aren’t disposable > http://www.animalarkshelter.org > (651) 772-8983 (Shelter) > (612) 590-1868 (Direct)
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> All your silly letters prove are that the net is full of hostile > It really is a shame. . . because he does have some value that he can > offer. . . it is just so encrusted with all of that. . . what ever you > want to call it. . . that it becomes not only totally useless but obtuse > and destructive. > Mike Fry > Animal Ark No-Kill Shelter > A no-kill shelter because pets aren’t disposable > http://www.animalarkshelter.org > (651) 772-8983 (Shelter) > (612) 590-1868 (Direct)
Here, I forgot this: > Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry. > He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and > watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth! > Out of these MILLIONS, I’ve only seen 2 naive childs > come forward and actually believe in his training manual. Robert Crim writes:
I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough of the manual and it’s counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it. This naive child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers. The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp. To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake names are more honest than people that use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and lived by their craft for decades. "Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because you people act like fools. Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don’t really care. > actually admit to buying and having success with his > little black box.
I think I’m going to get one myself for Father’s day and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing. You would never believe the results, so you’ll never know. > Anyone by now that doesn’t see a scam man coming by > Jerry’s posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming > to him! LOL!
I don’t see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei."…….right. >Terri
Yes it was, and that is sad. Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to listen to the box first?)
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Hello robinandlynne,
> All your silly letters prove are that the net is full of hostile people
Lemme get this straight. Is this the same robinandlynne who’s been telling posters my FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method is a FOR SALE item so they won’t read it because the INFORMATION in there proves you and your pals are a bunch of imbecile incompetent dog abusers? > desperate for dog help of ANY kind, jerrrrry howie.
You got ANY criticism of my methods or information? If you do, if you can’t offer better information, I suggest you get to the point. If you don’t, you may feel free to get the heel outta here . > They dig your style!
I’m VERY pupular. Welcome to WWW Wits’ End Dog Training. > They think it means you know something
I know dog training. > in a world where hostility passes for authenticity.
Take a shot at my methods why don’t you? You can’t. If I was a lightweight on dog abusers they wouldn’t have nothing to criticize because they can’t say nobody’s tried my methods or machine. I’ve got dozens of satisfied FREE WWW Wits’ End Dog Training Students who’ve responded right here with nothing less than SPECTACULAR results. With exception of a couple of Thugs who’ve claimed they’ve tried my methods and they didn’t work. But they also fail to answer the questions I ask correctly, proving they’ve never read the text. > It means nothing of the kind, of course.
Of course. I couldn’t get away with saying any of the things I do unless I can back them up with PROOF. My isp would shut me off if I was libeling the good folks here who complain that I’m saying bad things about them. All I do is quote their lies and abuse, they’re the ones who give me the vicious language to use, it’s their own words in quotes. > It just means you are a coward.
You know where I live. > I’m betting your real face is meek.
You’ll be seeing me soon enough. > We should begin calling you "Uriah Heep".
You should take off your shoes and wash your feet. > The kind of person you are is one who bullies in private.
Sorry, but Jerry don’t BULLY nobody who isn’t a bully. Tit for tat. > I fear for your dogs.
Exactly HOWE COME? I don’t ever jerk or choke or shock or scold or punish or intimidate my dogs in any way, just like I teach my students. > Please EXPLAIN, jerry howe, how your thugish writing is GOOD FOR DOGS?
I train people HOWE to train their dogs to naturally want to do everything they’re asked using only praise. > It is not, or course.
There isn’t better dog training and behavior information anywhere. > I challange you to post the address of your "training classes".
WELCOME. Take the gum outta your mouth. > I want to write to the newspaper in your town to > check the truth of your claim you even have such classes.
I suggest you check your FREE copy of my FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Metrhod manual available for FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com > I also would like to hear your explanation of why hurting dogs’ ears > with blasts of sound is more kind than shocking them with an electric > collar (which i also hate).
Oh. That’s cause my machine doesn’t hurt, it’s pleasant. And it cures almost all animal behavior problems. > "Distraction" I think you call it?
No. You’re confused because you haven’t read the INFORMATION because you’re offended cause you identify with the lying dog abusing Thugs, and you mention my machine cause you can’t dispute my INFORMATION. My FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method involves distraction and praise techniques. My Doggy Do Right (And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did And A Cockatoo Or Two Did Too) machine uses multiple scientific conditioning techiques that AUTOMATICALLY rehabilitates behavior problems in all animals within about 500 feet. > Hah!
Yeah, you tellin me! > Dogs’ ears are extremly semsitive.
Right. So is Jerry. > You have just found a subtle way to bully dogs, haven’t you, Jerry?
Not at all. My machine plays a gentle tune, kinda like Braham’s Lullaby, and the TECHNIQUE conditions the animals to RELAX and cope with their stressors in a more resourceful manner. > You have a LOT of nerve calling other people "Thugs", Jerry old boy.
All animals love my machine. That’s HOWE it works, it makes them FEEL comfortable. When we FEEL comfortable our brains function better. Better thinking is what relieves anxiety. My machine constantly reassures the animal that everything is GOOD, there’s NOTHING to worry about, RELAX, it’s O.K. You’re GOOD. Stuff like that. That’s HOWE my machine stops kats from fighting and parrots from squawking and roosters from excessive crowing. All those behaviors are TERRITORIAL ANXIETY. > Please clear up these sincere questions for me.
No problem. Please add NINNYBOY to the subject header and snip text, or your lying dog abusing Thug pals will killfile you. Besides, they need the head’s up so they can read my posts first and perform their damage control duties warning people that my manual is for sale and my methods are dangerous and my machine hurts dogs. > Lynne (not Lynn K…. as admirable as her work in rescue is…. shame > on you, jerry howe.)
You’re pal lynn k has been busted numerous times lying here. But Misty hasn’t been busted for lying. In fact, it was your pals roo and ed w of petloss dot CON who told Misty not to trust my information, and that got her dog Peach DEAD. Ask her. I don’t think she’s had the pleasure of thanking you and your lying dog abusing Thug pals for lying to her and ripping her dog off for it’s life. Chris Williams writes:
"The FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what I’ve always done without thinking of it as "training". New stuff, I’ve used. His anchoring technique erased the last of Mac’s fireworks trauma."
> Thanks Tricia9999, that was an interesting read! Course my little > gray box seems to be working… Buddy stopped biting the baby! No > negative side-effects seen occurring…not to the bird, the other bird or > Zelda. ~misty
> We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two dogs, > two collars We now have one dog and no collars. > Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come back > in the yard and would run for days. The last time, Peach didn’t > come back home. . I used the Wit’s End Training Manual to learn how to train my dog. > She is now border trained. A few minutes each day reinforces > her desire to stay in the yard. She no longer runs out into the > road, I can stop her from chasing cats and she no longer cringes > when we walk around the yard. > I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the e-fence > and its collars. If you can’t get a regular fence then you need to > train your dog. I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my > dog in our yard again. The price was too high:-( > ~misty
Elaine McClung, President of Pet Rescue, Animal Commissioner Brevard Co., FL writes: Sep 9, 2000
"I ordered from Jerry a long time ago.. He was helpful and the order was filled promptly. Yes, Doggie Do Right does indeed exist. I "had" a very aggressive female Pit.. She was showing aggression not only towards Dok, Rhodesian Ridgeback, but our cats and even us. She now plays with Dok, even to the point of allowing him to take a toy or bone from her. She no longer shows any aggression towards us. She is showing some aggression towards the cats but that is down to a warning growl. It is not just my opinion that all this aggression existed before Doggie Do Right as we were advised by three vets to euthanize her. I do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it has helped my dogs and cats. I do think your product is a valuable tool in helping with aggression and other behavior problems. I am in Feral CatNetwork (we spay and neuter approximately 100 feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC dog obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club, president of Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for Care and Welfare of Animals (on the board are: county commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from AKC dog club, CFA cat club, assistant County manager, head of animal control, director of two different shelters, etc.). Thanks, Elaine, Hi Jerry, I received email from Mark Shaw on 10/6 which I just read today. Sorry I didn’t have time to get to it sooner. We have had a lot going on in our area concerning animals. We formed a new Task Force to address spay/neuter, pet overpopulation and animal abuse. I needed to do a lot of research before the first meeting and time was just not available for anything else. Anyway the letter went on to say that we are in collusion, I tried to defraud him, and have sent none of the materials that he has asked for although he has yet to furnish the P.O. Box number that he wanted them sent to in the first place. He goes on to state that I am no longer eligible for the "fictions reward." All of this is in answer to postings that prove I was "sharing" his email with you which in his opinion was a breach of good manners. His email only had terms and conditions of the reward which I would consider "public information." Be that as it may, I would like to state that you had my permission to post any email I have sent you regarding DDR including this email. I’m very sorry that you have to put up with this type of situation from someone that obviously never intended to make good on his reward offer in the first place. I had a call from a friend of mine with a very aggressive cat. I have loaned her my DDR for a few weeks to see if it will calm JR down. I will let you know the results. She goes to the same holistic vet that I … read more »
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Well, writing it did me a world of good. jerrrrry howe has invaded my competer like a virus. Many kind folks have told me to use a kill file, but, alas, my computer is so old and/or disabled that the kill file does not work. You can not believe how howe has invaded this ng in just the last few months. You should see this place without a kill file on!!!!! He must sit all day and take apart letters like pulling wings off flys. I suppose we should be grateful his hands are busy. Thank you for your kind words. Jolly regards, Lynne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> All your silly letters prove are that the net is full of hostile > people desperate for dog help of ANY kind, jerrrrry howie. They dig > your style! They think it means you know something in a world where > hostility passes for authenticity. It means nothing of the kind, of > course. It just means you are a coward. I’m betting your real face > is meek. We should begin calling you "Uriah Heep". The kind of > person you are is one who bullies in private. I fear for your dogs. > Please EXPLAIN, jerry howe, how your thugish writing is GOOD FOR DOGS? > It is not, or course. I challange you to post the address of your > "training classes". I want to write to the newspaper in your town to > check the truth of your claim you even have such classes. > I also would like to hear your explanation of why hurting dogs’ ears > with blasts of sound is more kind than shocking them with an electric > collar (which i also hate). "Distraction" I think you call it? Hah! > Dogs’ ears are extremly semsitive. You have just found a subtle way > to bully dogs, haven’t you, Jerry? You have a LOT of nerve calling > other people "Thugs", Jerry old boy. > Please clear up these sincere questions for me. > Lynne (not Lynn K…. as admirable as her work in rescue is…. shame > on you, jerry howe.) > As much as I enjoyed that post, I can not help but to mention how > wonderful kill files are! Do yourself a favor, robinandlynne, stick him > in your kill file and you will find that, suddenly, the newsgroups become > a peaceful and productive place again. . . (c; > You know that old saying about how a few people can screw things up for > everyone? WELL, jerry howe IS one of those few people. Putting him in my > kill file was one of the most productive things I have done in a long > time. You will note that there are frequent posts to many newsgroups that > use the name "jerry howe" and the words "kill file" in the same sentence. > There is a reason for that! (c; Take the advice of many and put him where > he belongs. . . in your message filter! (c; > It really is a shame. . . because he does have some value that he can > offer. . . it is just so encrusted with all of that. . . what ever you > want to call it. . . that it becomes not only totally useless but obtuse > and destructive.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > All your silly letters prove are that the net is full of hostile > people desperate for dog help of ANY kind, jerrrrry howie. They dig > your style! They think it means you know something in a world where > hostility passes for authenticity. It means nothing of the kind, of > course. It just means you are a coward. I’m betting your real face > is meek. We should begin calling you "Uriah Heep". The kind of > person you are is one who bullies in private. I fear for your dogs. > Please EXPLAIN, jerry howe, how your thugish writing is GOOD FOR DOGS? > It is not, or course. I challange you to post the address of your > "training classes". I want to write to the newspaper in your town to > check the truth of your claim you even have such classes. > I also would like to hear your explanation of why hurting dogs’ ears > with blasts of sound is more kind than shocking them with an electric > collar (which i also hate). "Distraction" I think you call it? Hah! > Dogs’ ears are extremly semsitive. You have just found a subtle way > to bully dogs, haven’t you, Jerry? You have a LOT of nerve calling > other people "Thugs", Jerry old boy. > Please clear up these sincere questions for me. > Lynne (not Lynn K…. as admirable as her work in rescue is…. shame > on you, jerry howe.)
As much as I enjoyed that post, I can not help but to mention how wonderful kill files are! Do yourself a favor, robinandlynne, stick him in your kill file and you will find that, suddenly, the newsgroups become a peaceful and productive place again. . . (c; You know that old saying about how a few people can screw things up for everyone? WELL, jerry howe IS one of those few people. Putting him in my kill file was one of the most productive things I have done in a long time. You will note that there are frequent posts to many newsgroups that use the name "jerry howe" and the words "kill file" in the same sentence. There is a reason for that! (c; Take the advice of many and put him where he belongs. . . in your message filter! (c; It really is a shame. . . because he does have some value that he can offer. . . it is just so encrusted with all of that. . . what ever you want to call it. . . that it becomes not only totally useless but obtuse and destructive. — Mike Fry Animal Ark No-Kill Shelter A no-kill shelter because pets aren’t disposable http://www.animalarkshelter.org (651) 772-8983 (Shelter) (612) 590-1868 (Direct)
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