New problem with hyper dog
Question:
> About as big as my five month old puppies.
The doctors let you play with puppies in the nut house?? They really should keep a better eye on you. It’s bad enough that they let you have a computer.
Response:
I recommend you go back to your pronged spiked pinch choke collar and show IT who’s BOSS. Bye jeffie. j;~) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > :> My dog (Jake) is a handful. > : Has been for years, jeffie. What’s changed? > Do I know you? Why the hell would you start addressing me this way? > :> He’s always been a energetic, playful dog; and he’s always gotten > :> plenty of exercise. > : Yeah. You use excessive exercise to control his anxiety behaviors > : that you cause by crating and confronting and punishing and choking > : him, as you’ve been taught by our dog lovers. > Did I say excessive anywhere? No, the word I used was "plenty". > :> The problem is that he’s very difficult to control. > : The problem is you din’t know HOWE to control him. Your methods > : of handling him are driving him NUTS. There’s a new study from > : Purdue on compulsive anxiety behavior being caused by "EXCITEMENT" > : that VERIFIES EVERY THING JERRY TEACHES and has been called > : a liar for teaching…good buddy. > Oh yes, now I remember who you are. You’re the annoying newsgroup jerk. > : And for that he gets self corrected on your pronged spiked pinch > : choke collar, which is what triggers his anxiety in the first place. > : You’re just adding insult to injury, jeffie. That’s HOWE COME > : I don’t have empathy or hope for you, nothing will change your > : desire to hurt and intimidate and force control on your dog cause > : you don’t have any ideas or information about your behavior problems. > Actually, he’s always been hyper. We tried a spike collar for a while, > but it didn’t really seem to make much difference, so I stopped using > it in case it might be hurting him or adding discomfort to the situation. > We stopped crating him a long time ago. > You’re a jerk, and don’t seem to really have anything useful to say other > than your egotistical rantings. Bye again. > jeff.
Response:
:> My dog (Jake) is a handful. : Has been for years, jeffie. What’s changed? Do I know you? Why the hell would you start addressing me this way? :> He’s always been a energetic, playful dog; and he’s always gotten :> plenty of exercise. : Yeah. You use excessive exercise to control his anxiety behaviors : that you cause by crating and confronting and punishing and choking : him, as you’ve been taught by our dog lovers. Did I say excessive anywhere? No, the word I used was "plenty". :> The problem is that he’s very difficult to control. : The problem is you din’t know HOWE to control him. Your methods : of handling him are driving him NUTS. There’s a new study from : Purdue on compulsive anxiety behavior being caused by "EXCITEMENT" : that VERIFIES EVERY THING JERRY TEACHES and has been called : a liar for teaching…good buddy. Oh yes, now I remember who you are. You’re the annoying newsgroup jerk. : And for that he gets self corrected on your pronged spiked pinch : choke collar, which is what triggers his anxiety in the first place. : You’re just adding insult to injury, jeffie. That’s HOWE COME : I don’t have empathy or hope for you, nothing will change your : desire to hurt and intimidate and force control on your dog cause : you don’t have any ideas or information about your behavior problems. Actually, he’s always been hyper. We tried a spike collar for a while, but it didn’t really seem to make much difference, so I stopped using it in case it might be hurting him or adding discomfort to the situation. We stopped crating him a long time ago. You’re a jerk, and don’t seem to really have anything useful to say other than your egotistical rantings. Bye again. jeff.
Response:
Hello jeff, Nice to hear from you again today. > My dog (Jake) is a handful.
Has been for years, jeffie. What’s changed? > He’s always been a energetic, playful dog; and he’s always gotten > plenty of exercise.
Yeah. You use excessive exercise to control his anxiety behaviors that you cause by crating and confronting and punishing and choking him, as you’ve been taught by our dog lovers. > This is a 55-lb athlete of a dog, a shepherd/boxer mix.
About as big as my five month old puppies. > The drawback to plenty of exercise seems to be he needs > more as he gets more…. :-/ He’s about 2 1/2 years old.
Yeah. He needs moore exercise to control his anxiety you cause. > The problem is that he’s very difficult to control.
The problem is you din’t know HOWE to control him. Your methods of handling him are driving him NUTS. There’s a new study from Purdue on compulsive anxiety behavior being caused by "EXCITEMENT" that VERIFIES EVERY THING JERRY TEACHES and has been called a liar for teaching…good buddy. > If there’s another dog visible in the area,
I don’t care, jeffie. That’s not the problem. The problem is YOU. > he’ll get hyper-excited and lunge at the end of the leash.
And for that he gets self corrected on your pronged spiked pinch choke collar, which is what triggers his anxiety in the first place. You’re just adding insult to injury, jeffie. That’s HOWE COME I don’t have empathy or hope for you, nothing will change your desire to hurt and intimidate and force control on your dog cause you don’t have any ideas or information about your behavior problems. > Just walking around the neighborhood,
I said YOUR behavior problems, not the dog. Dogs do not have behavior problems, dogs only react to circumstances YOU create for them, jeffie. The problem is YOU, not the dog. > he continually pulls at the end of the lead.
Because you try to force control and jerk and choke him to show him you’re the boss. Well jeffie, you’re the boss of your behavior problems, and your dog is suffering becaue of you and your collossal EGO, jeffie. > While I’ve made progress working with him on that,
You mean you’ve jerked and choked him moore than he can tolerate. > and can have walks with him (say, in the woods) without having him > tugging all the time, as soon as he’s excited he ignores the leash rules.
You mean he ignores you jerking and choking him, jeffie. > He’s trained to the point where he knows many different commands,
You mean he’s AFRAID of many different commands. > it just seems like any and all control gets short-circuited > when he’s too excited.
And that’s when you HURT and INTIMIDATE him someMOORE. > And it doesn’t take much.
That’s what I been tellin you, good buddy. > A car dooroutside (dense neighborhood — the houses are very close) will > set off the barking, to the point where we have to stand over him
To threaten choke and intimidate him. > to quiet him down.
Works EVERY TIME, don’t it, jeffie. > I’m wondering if he just gets too much stimulation.
INDEED. Too much NO!, too much CHOKING, and too much PUNISHMENT. > Most contact he has with other dogs is either those he can’t reach > (in their fenced yards), which must be frustrating,
ONLY when you jerk and choke him, jeffie. > or those he can play and romp with.
Whatever. I’m not playin. > He really does act like he’s hyper-active.
Cause he really IS hyperactive because YOU provoke him. > To be fair though,
Our dogs lovers are always FAIR, jeffie. > he sacks out and relaxes pretty well when he knows that it’s time to.
He’s probably wishing he was DEAD. That could be coming next. > Although usually this is after a bit of pacing and whining.
INDEED, nothting to worry about jeffie. Have some tea or cold brewskie. > The immediate issue is that he bit someone last week.
SHAAAZZZAAAMMM!!! Imagine that? HOWE COME ? > My dog walker had him out, and a man walked by. Jake ignored him until > he’d passed by, then he turned around and bit him on the arm.
That’s because you’ve jerked and choked him for thinking excitedly about passersbye, jeffie. YOU caused the bite, not the dog. Dogs ONLY do what WE train them to do, jeffie. NICE WORK! > The dog walker had been vigilant about him as the guy approached,
You mean shortening up on the lead and jerking him if he looked at the man… > but wasn’t too worried once Jake hadn’t shown any interest as > he got close, and so he got away with it.
As he will again, jeffie. That’s only PREDICTABLE when we rely on pain fear force and intimidation to control the dog’s response to your jerking and choking and intimidation. > Today I had Jake under a tight leash
Yes jeffie. That’s what triggers positive thigmotaxis and compels the dog to do what you’re trying to FORCE him NOT to do. Catch 22, good buddy… I told you so. And quite franky, I LOVE IT! INDEED jeffie, I NEED YOU and YOUR DOG, as poster children for HURTING and INTIMIDATING dogs… Thank you for your cooperation! > when a man walked by me on the other side; after he was past, > Jake went after him like he was going to sniff at him or chase him > (or bite again?).
So you HURT him for that, no doubt. > How do I interpret this behavior?
I dunno, jeffie. Almost ANYTHING could explain HOWE COME you’ve been abusing your dogs. Could be a bad updragging, could be some mental defect like OCD or bipolar, but whatever it is, it’s YOUR PROBLEM, not the dog. Your dog is your VICTIM. > Is he reacting to a stranger walking close by to his people,
No. He’s reacting to YOU jerking and choking and intimidating him. > or is he engaging in some kind of hunting/herding behavior?
Could be he knows if he bites someone you’ll kill him and he’ll finally be able to find PEACE. That’s my bet. Dogs are SMART~ > I’m comfortable with working with him to desensitize > him to strangers walking by,
You mean you don’t mind HURTING him, jeffie. Let’s call a spade a spade. > but is this a larger problem?
HOWE much do you weigh, jeffie? THAT’S HOWE BIG "his" problem is. > So the overall question is, are there training techniques to calm > a dog down?
No jeffie. Not here. NOT ON YOUR LIFE! > Are there medications I should consider?
Probably so, but you need to consult an expert psychopharmacologist. > Should I think about giving him up to a more rural setting in a multi-dog > family?
Bring him to the shelter where janet boss or mikey ball or lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn and sindy "don’t let the dog SCREAM" mooreon HELP dogs like this by KILLING them for you. Got any money? If you got a few extra bucks, stop by http://www.petloss.com and give eddie a fifty dollar donation and he’ll send you a nice bridge tee shirt and use your hard earned dough to tell another "jeffie" to killfile Jerry cause Jerry’s a liar and a fraud and a scam artist, jeffie. Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior View: Complete Thread (20 articles) | Original Format Hello Jeff, > OK, so the answers I’ve seen to this post so far seem to > indicate that no one has any helpful techniques for training > a dog out of whining.
You didn’t see my post? Here it is again: Stop scolding your dog. Stop listening to bums who tell you to confront, scold, or punish your dog. Read the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for free at http://www.doggydoright.com Ask questions if you have any. Don’t believe anyone who tells you to use a choke collar, crate, shock, or any form of forced control. Jerry. > The suggestion for letting the dog run wasn’t bad, but this > dog gets a run every other day.
You’re listening to bums who don’t KNOW HOWE to handle and train their own dogs. These morons exercise dogs to control behavior problems instead of training them. When the exercise program is interrupted because of weather or illness, the problems come back in spades… > I’ve got a shepherd/boxer mix that is very excitable.
Big deal. Follow the instructions in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual, and you’ll be straightened out before the week is over. > He gets very excited by other dogs,
I’m not interested. It’s covered in the manual. > other people,
It’s in there. > noises, snow, air, dirt, etc.
It’s in there. > When we go for a car ride (pretty much every day, as I take > him to work), he whines non-stop for most of the ride.
That’s in there too. > It would be VERY nice if I could > figure out how to train him out of it.
Start reading the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual, and you may solve your problems before tomorrow morning… > While I agree that we should be careful when people > comment about beating a dog, this guy was clearly just > stating his frustration at the whining.
WELL, there’s NOTHING wrong with BEATING dogs here on rpdb. WE TWIST and PINCH EARS, TOES, TESTICLES, SHOCK, JERK, CHOKE, BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS… and that’s ALL JUST FOR MOTIVATION. We beat dogs for prolonged duration with switches and straps, and return every twenty minutes to repeat the beatings for such things as crapping on the floor. That’s less annoying than that damn whining. Don’t be a whimp. Take your lead and lay it over his nose a few times when he sounds off with that crap, and you’ll fix the problem INSTANTLY, or in a few beatings of long duration… > Yes, it would be ideal to be able to just ignore the whining
No way. That dog doesn’t have the right to bother you like that. > and say "it’s just whining, he’s not ripping children’s faces > off" (which is true; all things considered, this is a minor > problem).
If you don’t straighten him out, it may be kid’s faces NEXT. Get out your belt and lay it across his snout a few times. IT’S IN THE KOEHLER BOOK. Just DO IT. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> However, listening to a dog whine 8-10 times
… read more »
Response:
Related Posts