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Should we ley him cry?

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Hello roo,

> It’s funny

There ain’t nothin funny about you tellin folks to hurt and kill their dogs, roo. > that I only discovered my trainer allowed her dogs on the bed

Big deal, that’s totally irrelevant to DOG behavior. > after her husband and my husband got talking,

I’m surprised they didn’t take you both for a ride… > and were commenting on how there is not always a great deal of room with >  three dogs on and two humans in the bed (both my old trainer and I have

three dogs). Wonderful. Getting on the bed is up to you. Got nuthin to do with training or behavior. > The esp take up room when the dogs start to groom vigorously!

That’s HOWE COME I only allow human animals in my bed. > But Gwen Bailey’s ‘Perfect Puppy’ says to let your little one whimper

away…. Well, gwen baily doesn’t have to KILL your dog when lettin IT cry makes IT despise and fear you. > and for many people, that’s their bible for the first few months.

Yes, and they KILL the dogs that don’t make it througth their biblical trainin. > We let ours in the bedroom once they were housetrained, but now I’d use a > crate and have the pup in the room with me at night.

Yeah, cause you still don’t know HOWE to train a dog not to chew and shit your HOWES. > Alikat

Get the heel outta here you miserable lying dog abusin Thug.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. > Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no > collars. > Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to > come back in the yard and would run for days.  The > last time, Peach didn’t come back home. > I used the Wit’s End Training Manual to learn how to > train my dog. She is now border trained.  A few > minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in the > yard. > She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her > from chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we > walk around the yard. > I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the > e-fence and its collars.  If you can’t get a regular fence > then you need to train your dog.  I will never rely on an > electronic collar to keep my dog in our yard again. > The price was too high:-( > ~misty

message – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I read up on rotties, pitbulls, etc., and quite a bit > of the literature suggested I needed to assert my > dominance and "make the dog earn everything it gets." >  I tried this once or twice, just by taking a stern tone > of voice, and the results were terrible. > The pup got scared and just wanted to stay away from > me. That’s why I support Jerry Howe and his FREE > Wits’ End Dog Training manual — that and the fact > that Jerry is an all-around great guy. > The core takeaway I got from Jerry’s manual is this: > make yourself the center of your puppy’s world – > – his personal Lord Jesus. Never give him a reason > to fear you or think you’re angry. Love the heck > out of him, and you’ll end up with a great dog. > This has truly worked with my puppy.  She’ll do > anything I want her to, if she understands, because > she trusts me 100 percent, and nothing is more > important in her world than her relationship > with me.  http://www.geocities.com/viscouspuppy > Charlie

> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry. > He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and > watching him extract his soggy  foot out of his mouth! > Out of these MILLIONS, I’ve only seen 2 naive childs > come forward and actually believe in his training

manual. Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough of the manual and it’s counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it. This naive child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers. The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp. To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into good behavior.  Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake names are more honest than people that use their real names.  Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and lived by their craft for decades. "Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because you people act like fools. Why do you act like fools?  I really have no idea, and I don’t really care. > actually admit to buying and having success with his > little black box.

I think I’m going to get one myself for Father’s day and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing. You would never believe the results, so you’ll never know. > Anyone by now that doesn’t see a scam man coming by > Jerry’s posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming > to him! LOL!

I don’t see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei."…….right. >Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad. Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to listen to the box first?) A pet professional writes:

Jerry, Please give me everything you have on the heeling pattern.  I’m just getting  over the basics with my devils (Schipperke’s)-house breaking and aggressive behaviour. They were caged and quite ill for a full year and are a huge handful.  They are born circlers and extremely hyper. I was having the worst time because none of my traditional stuff worked- I’m not a dog trainer but I do have a little experience. I’m also looking for methods to deter chewing-they love paper, rocks, coral,broken glass, various carcasses-you get the drift. Now that I’ve gotten over the potty thing and have aggressive behaviour under control, I’m working on their attention span and small commands. Obedience will happen after Christmas but now my criteria for a class is alot different. My last dog(mutt)  was great- not food or fear motivated, well socialized and extremely flexible but she was born like that. This is the temperament I’m going for and I was feeling like maybe I was in over my head. Now that I’ve rethought their motivations, things are alot easier. They used to poop just to get a rise out of me-bad attention being better than no attention of course. Now they only do it if they are really furious with me. Thanks 1000 times for opening my eyes and don’t let those assholes get you down.  I can’t be the only person that sees the sense in your methods. I’m in Windsor, Ontario, Canada and pass your info to anyone it might help. Just in discussion I’ve gotten a pretty good response from some of this.  A customer recently purchased a Shiba Inu and I suspect she may be in for a wild ride. This is a breed that I suspect may respond particularly well to mutual respect style training.  The alpha complex (as I now call it) is likely to really provoke the dog’s naturally competitive nature. Thanks, Jeremy. Hello Jeremy, I’m glad you’re finding success with my methods, and thanks for the kind words. I hope you’ll contribute to the group. You’d be surprised at the improvement in the caliber of advice posted here if you looked back ten months ago. The smarter dogs are often the hardest to train because they outsmart us. That’s why we need to elicit their cooperation, because they are too smart to put up with being dominated or forced. All of the force techniques that are based on the alpha theory are problematical on a large percentage of dogs, and at best, do not contribute to a well rounded personality and flexibility. The heeling pattern exercise is where you will really see the dog’s thinking get organized. It really effects nervous or hyper dogs in just a couple of days work of four minutes each. The subtle challenge of dominating and subordinating on the circles and turns balance the dog’s temperament in a similar manner to the alpha rollover, but on a non physical level. That will relax and instill confidence in timed, shy, or aggressive dogs. The important thing is to not try to make it happen, the exercise is necessarily confusing and contrary to what would most ordinarily make sense for working with a dog. I can’t wait till you try it… Jerry.

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Hello roo,

> put him in a crate or something. I don’t like the idea of crates but he > might be happier in it than on his own.  Do you leave any heating on ? He > might be feeling the cold this time of year. >       Alison > I agree with Alison –

Yeah. Seems you and your lying dog abusing Thug pals convinced alison crating dogs is GOOD for them. I guess alison isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer, hun? >  and a crate/cage may help because

Crating causes barrier frustration syndrome, roo. > it’s easy to step on a pup if you get up in the dark for a wee,

You’re a bullshitter and a liar and a dog abuser, roo. > and if he is in a crate, you know where he is.

You couldn’t find your arse in the dark with both hands and a couple Thugs holding a lantern and reading the instructions. > Also, he won’t wee on your bedroom floor if he’s in a crate.

Right, cause you don’t know HOWE to HOWESbreak a dog without locking them in a box. > But do make sure you take him out if he asks to go,

Well, that presents a problem on account of you can’t tell if the dog is crying to go out or crying for attention and just BEING BAD. > as he won’t want to wee in his crate,

Which is HOWE COME they get anxious when they’re locked inside. Dogs ain’t stupid roo, they know they can’t get out to go pee, and that SCARES them and that’s HOWE COME they cry. Cratin impedes HOWESbreaking by teaching the dog his crate is his HOWES and your HOWES is his TOILET, roo. But you ain’t bright enough to figger that out, cause everything I teach takes away your sense of CONTROL. That’s HOWE COME your own dogs are not well behaved, roo. > and it’ll be uncomfortable for him to have to try and hang on.

So, now you know HOWE COME. > Pups ‘go’ more quickly accompanied,

That’s bullshit, roo. You’re an ignorant lying dog abusing Thug. You told Misty to killfile my INFORMATION and that got her dog Peach DEAD. You told Marilyn you’d killfile her for disucssing training with Jerry cause my INFORMATION SCARES YOU cause it PROVES you and your PALS to be lying dog abusing Thugs, roo. Ask her if she doesn’t agree that you’re a liar and a dog abuser, roo. > also fling something warm on and go out  into the garden with him, > however horrible, wet and windy it is, and he’ll perform faster and > be housetrained faster, saving you a lot of hassle in the long run.

You’re full of crap. Dogs prefer PRIVACY just like SOME of us do. > British behaviourists sometimes say people shouldn’t sleep in the same room > as their pups, but this is based on the idea that the pup needs to learn

to be alone. Yeah? They teach "alone" training in your class, roo? What’s this ‘behaviorist’ bullshit? If your "behaviorists" had any information, you and your PALS wouldn’t KILL dogs like tara o did to two Boxer Rescue dogs and your pit bull fan chrisman dinan just killed his dog like ruthie is about to kill her Boxer Rescue dog too… roo. > If you already leave your pup alone in the day, there’s no point > isolating him at night as well.

You mean so long as his ALONE TRAINING is being done… > And if there’s someone at home all day, they can gradually get him > used to being alone by going out for short spells that  get longer, so > he doesn’t panic if you have to leave him as an adult.

Sorry roo, you’re full of CRAP. Separation anxiety is caused by MISHANDLING, not separation. A properly trained well adjusted dog is never anxious. > Funnily enough,

Funny? There’s nothin funny about you tellin folks they should lock their dogs in a box and let it cry till it learns to be good. > the Americans are big softies on this,

You still holdin that little thing about the tea over our heads? > and most US posters tend to sleep in the same rooms as their pups –

Most Britts like their dogs to sleep in the kitchen. In AU they like their dogs to live outside. So?  A dog is a dog, roo. Properly handled and trained dogs respond to what their people like them to do. > maybe it’s because they are more likely to be out in the day.

Maybe that’s totally freakin irrelevant. The issue is CONFINEMENT SEPARATION ANXIETY, roo. Remember? Lockng the dog in a box is only going to reinforce the anxiety. > Alikat

And you know that too, but you got no other advice, roo. So that’s what you’ll tell folks so you look BRILLIANT. You’re a brilliant DOUBLETALKER, roo. Get the heel outta here. Here’s Misty, you freakin KILLED her dog Peach for her:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. > Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no > collars. > Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to > come back in the yard and would run for days.  The > last time, Peach didn’t come back home. > I used the Wit’s End Training Manual to learn how to > train my dog. She is now border trained.  A few > minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in the > yard. > She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her > from chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we > walk around the yard. > I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the > e-fence and its collars.  If you can’t get a regular fence > then you need to train your dog.  I will never rely on an > electronic collar to keep my dog in our yard again. > The price was too high:-( > ~misty

> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry. > He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and > watching him extract his soggy  foot out of his mouth! > Out of these MILLIONS, I’ve only seen 2 naive childs > come forward and actually believe in his training manual. Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough of the manual and it’s counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it. This naive child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers. The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp. To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into good behavior.  Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake names are more honest than people that use their real names.  Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and lived by their craft for decades. "Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because you people act like fools. Why do you act like fools?  I really have no idea, and I don’t really care. > actually admit to buying and having success with his > little black box.

I think I’m going to get one myself for Father’s day and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing. You would never believe the results, so you’ll never know. > Anyone by now that doesn’t see a scam man coming by > Jerry’s posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming > to him! LOL!

I don’t see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei."…….right. >Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad. Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to listen to the box first?)

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Excellent advice, Kathryn. Have you read your FREE copy of my FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I have a lovely new puppy, an English Springer Spaniel of just eight >weeks old. I live in Brockenhurst in the New Forest and look forward >to talking him on walks in this lovely area. >The question I would like to ask this group is – ‘Where should the >little puppy be bedded down for the night?’ >He was put in his own little basket in the kitchen of the night-time but >he howled, cried and whimpered all through the night. It is breaking my >girlfriends and my heart to hear him so distressed. But we have been >told to let him cry and not to go to him as he will settle down after a >few nights. >It is now his third night of none-stop crying – are we doing the right >thing in leaving him? > They (the "experts") used to say the same thing about human babies and > they were wrong. > Dogs are social animals, just like we are. I’ve kept all three of my > dogs in the bedroom with me at night when they were puppies. One I had > to crate as she had not yet been housebroken the people who had her > for her first 8 weeks. The others didn’t need this. All three are > extremely secure and well adjusted. >He becomes so exhausted crying that he sleeps most of the day. >David Ingram > ~~ Kathi ~~

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Hello alison, You KNOW crating dogs causes SOME dogs hyperactivity, obsessive barking, compulsive chewing, pacing, whining, digging, self mutilation, shyness, aggression, separation anxiety, fear of thunder, intestinal and digestive disorders, and idiopathic epilepsy. If you don’t know that, let me know and I’ll EXPLAIN IT AGAIN for you… Meanwhile, don’t be giving shitty advice cause you got no excellent advice, or you’ll find yourself telling people to crate their dogs and then KILL their dogs when those PREDICTABLE behavior problems result, and then I’ll have to call you a THUG too. So, FIGGER IT OUT, cause just looking at a couple of your posts recently, you’re beginning to sound like a Thug. Perhaps it’s just the company you keep, allelomimetic behavior and all?  Jerry.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a lovely new puppy, an English Springer Spaniel of just eight > weeks old. I live in Brockenhurst in the New Forest and look forward > to talking him on walks in this lovely area. > The question I would like to ask this group is – ‘Where should the > little puppy be bedded down for the night?’ > He was put in his own little basket in the kitchen of the night-time but > he howled, cried and whimpered all through the night. It is breaking my > girlfriends and my heart to hear him so distressed. But we have been > told to let him cry and not to go to him as he will settle down after a > few nights. > It is now his third night of none-stop crying – are we doing the right > thing in leaving him? > He becomes so exhausted crying that he sleeps most of the day. > David Ingram >      Hi David, >           You’ll all  be happier if he is in your bedroom. You might need to > put him in a crate or something. I don’t like the idea of crates but he > might be happier in it than on his own.  Do you leave any heating on ? He > might be feeling the cold this time of year. >       Alison

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A mom dog or an INTELLIGENT, caring owner wouldn’t let their puppy cry for ONE MINUTE. Would they? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I would crate train him— keep the crate in your room or downstairs with a > blanket over it. It becomes their little den.  Greta screamed for the first > week, (it drove me crazy–I kept going downstairs to "cuddle" her…  then I > plugged my ears and she learned to sleep) but now she is very relaxed and > quiet in there. Crate training is well worth the investment–especially if > you plan to travel w/ your friend.

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> They (the "experts") used to say the same thing about human babies and > they were wrong. > Dogs are social animals, just like we are. I’ve kept all three of my > dogs in the bedroom with me at night when they were puppies. One I had > to crate as she had not yet been housebroken the people who had her > for her first 8 weeks. The others didn’t need this. All three are > extremely secure and well adjusted. > ~~ Kathi ~~

Thank you all for responding to my post. We have him in our bedroom now and everyone is getting a restful night. Now, the question I would like to ask is: – "How do we get him to eventually sleep downstairs?" He is very well behaved regarding his toilet activities, he is let out just before bedtime and again in the morning, and he hasn’t yet had occasion to do anything during the night. Is it going to be a difficult task to get him to sleep downstairs once he has got used to being upstairs? Advice on how to get him to do this will be most welcome..Thank you! David Ingram

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> We have him in our bedroom now and everyone is getting a > restful night. Now, the question I would like to ask is: – > "How do we get him to eventually sleep downstairs?"

Not to be flippant, but my question to your question would be: "Why?". My dogs have full house freedom.  Murphy chooses to sleep in her crate in my office but sometimes sleeps in the living room, Rocky alternates between my bedroom and his crate, and Friday always sleeps in his chosen corner of my bedroom after about 5 minutes on my bed. Once your pup is housebroken, why not let him decide where he’ll be most comfortable? — –Matt.  Rocky’s a Dog.

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I would crate train him— keep the crate in your room or downstairs with a blanket over it. It becomes their little den.  Greta screamed for the first week, (it drove me crazy–I kept going downstairs to "cuddle" her…  then I plugged my ears and she learned to sleep) but now she is very relaxed and quiet in there. Crate training is well worth the investment–especially if you plan to travel w/ your friend. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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> On reflection, I can see no reason why our new puppy should > not sleep in our bedroom and continue to do so in adulthood. > I look forward to further discussions as to the wellbeing of > our new puppy and will admit that not only will he need to > be trained correctly, but that my training is something that > I should also consider.

Good for you, David!  You’ve gotten some great advice on the other newsgroups to which you’ve posted this question, too. — –Matt.  Rocky’s a Dog.

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> We have him in our bedroom now and everyone is getting a > restful night. Now, the question I would like to ask is: – > "How do we get him to eventually sleep downstairs?" > Not to be flippant, but my question to your question would be: > "Why?".

I have just asked myself that question…..and cant come up with a logical answer! I am certainly getting an education from you good people in here! I would say that my ideas and beliefs of where a dog should sleep come from my grandparents who were stuck in their ways – the old ways – which appear to be a bit outdated today. On reflection, I can see no reason why our new puppy should not sleep in our bedroom and continue to do so in adulthood. I look forward to further discussions as to the wellbeing of our new puppy and will admit that not only will he need to be trained correctly, but that my training is something that I should also consider. :o ) Many thanks for all the sound advice and help…… David Ingram – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> — > –Matt.  Rocky’s a Dog.

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>Not just in the same rooms, but in our beds!

It’s not just Americans. In spite of the reputation we have in the UK, I recall a survey done by one of the doggy organisations here (I think it was the NCDL) that discovered that about half of UK dog owners also share their beds. – ANDREA —   Get PAID for the emails you already send and receive!                   ANDROMEDA – Internet Goddess Bloodaxe’s History Links:   http://www.geocities.com/Athens/5055/ The Loony Bin Archive:               http://loonies.net800.co.uk/

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> >Not just in the same rooms, but in our beds! > It’s not just Americans. In spite of the reputation we have in the UK, I > recall a survey done by one of the doggy organisations here (I think it > was the NCDL) that discovered that about half of UK dog owners also > share their beds. > – ANDREA

It’s funny that I only discovered my trainer allowed her dogs on the bed after her husband and my husband got talking, and were commenting on how there is not always a great deal of room with three dogs on and two humans in the bed (both my old trainer and I have three dogs). The esp take up room when the dogs start to groom vigorously! But Gwen Bailey’s ‘Perfect Puppy’ says to let your little one whimper away….and for many people, that’s their bible for the first few months. We let ours in the bedroom once they were housetrained, but now I’d use a crate and have the pup in the room with me at night. Alikat – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> — >   Get PAID for the emails you already send and receive! >                   ANDROMEDA – Internet Goddess > Bloodaxe’s History Links:   http://www.geocities.com/Athens/5055/ > The Loony Bin Archive:               http://loonies.net800.co.uk/

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>most US posters >tend to sleep in the same rooms as their pups –

Not just in the same rooms, but in our beds! <G> Mine has several of her own beds, but it’s more fun to sleep with Mom and take up most of her bed, too even though she only weighs 17 pounds {about 8 kilos] Dorothy, owned by C.C., a very spoiled dachshund

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I have a lovely new puppy, an English Springer Spaniel of just eight >weeks old. I live in Brockenhurst in the New Forest and look forward >to talking him on walks in this lovely area. >The question I would like to ask this group is – ‘Where should the >little puppy be bedded down for the night?’ >He was put in his own little basket in the kitchen of the night-time but >he howled, cried and whimpered all through the night. It is breaking my >girlfriends and my heart to hear him so distressed. But we have been >told to let him cry and not to go to him as he will settle down after a >few nights. >It is now his third night of none-stop crying – are we doing the right >thing in leaving him?

They (the "experts") used to say the same thing about human babies and they were wrong. Dogs are social animals, just like we are. I’ve kept all three of my dogs in the bedroom with me at night when they were puppies. One I had to crate as she had not yet been housebroken the people who had her for her first 8 weeks. The others didn’t need this. All three are extremely secure and well adjusted. >He becomes so exhausted crying that he sleeps most of the day. >David Ingram

~~ Kathi ~~

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a lovely new puppy, an English Springer Spaniel of just eight > weeks old. I live in Brockenhurst in the New Forest and look forward > to talking him on walks in this lovely area. > The question I would like to ask this group is – ‘Where should the > little puppy be bedded down for the night?’ > He was put in his own little basket in the kitchen of the night-time but > he howled, cried and whimpered all through the night. It is breaking my > girlfriends and my heart to hear him so distressed. But we have been > told to let him cry and not to go to him as he will settle down after a > few nights. > It is now his third night of none-stop crying – are we doing the right > thing in leaving him? > He becomes so exhausted crying that he sleeps most of the day. > David Ingram

     Hi David,           You’ll all  be happier if he is in your bedroom. You might need to put him in a crate or something. I don’t like the idea of crates but he might be happier in it than on his own.  Do you leave any heating on ? He might be feeling the cold this time of year.       Alison – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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David: I would bring him into the bedroom but then I share a double bed with both my husband and a 90lb dog (crowded some nights). Just be sure that you don’t let him sleep in your bed if that’s not what you want later. Is he warm enough? Remember — he’s probably used to sleeping with a pile of littermates in one huge lump. And — don’t be so sure about the day time exhaustion. Most 8 week olds sleep most of the day. Carol Ann

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a lovely new puppy, an English Springer Spaniel of just eight > weeks old. > He was put in his own little basket in the kitchen of the night-time but > he howled, cried and whimpered all through the night. It is breaking my > girlfriends and my heart to hear him so distressed. But we have been > told to let him cry and not to go to him as he will settle down after a > few nights. > It is now his third night of none-stop crying – are we doing the right > thing in leaving him? > He becomes so exhausted crying that he sleeps most of the day. > David Ingram

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a lovely new puppy, an English Springer Spaniel of just eight > weeks old. I live in Brockenhurst in the New Forest and look forward > to talking him on walks in this lovely area. > The question I would like to ask this group is – ‘Where should the > little puppy be bedded down for the night?’ > He was put in his own little basket in the kitchen of the night-time but > he howled, cried and whimpered all through the night. It is breaking my > girlfriends and my heart to hear him so distressed. But we have been > told to let him cry and not to go to him as he will settle down after a > few nights. > It is now his third night of none-stop crying – are we doing the right > thing in leaving him? > He becomes so exhausted crying that he sleeps most of the day. > David Ingram >      Hi David, >           You’ll all  be happier if he is in your bedroom. You might need to > put him in a crate or something. I don’t like the idea of crates but he > might be happier in it than on his own.  Do you leave any heating on ? He > might be feeling the cold this time of year. >       Alison

I agree with Alison – and a crate/cage may help because it’s easy to step on a pup if you get up in the dark for a wee, and if he is in a crate, you know where he is. Also, he won’t wee on your bedroom floor if he’s in a crate. But do make sure you take him out if he asks to go, as he won’t want to wee in his crate, and it’ll be uncomfortable for him to have to try and hang on. Pups ‘go’ more quickly accompanied, so fling something warm on and go out into the garden with him, however horrible, wet and windy it is, and he’ll perform faster and be housetrained faster, saving you a lot of hassle in the long run. British behaviourists sometimes say people shouldn’t sleep in the same room as their pups, but this is based on the idea that the pup needs to learn to be alone. If you already leave your pup alone in the day, there’s no point isolating him at night as well. And if there’s someone at home all day, they can gradually get him used to being alone by going out for short spells that get longer, so he doesn’t panic if you have to leave him as an adult. Funnily enough, the Americans are big softies on this, and most US posters tend to sleep in the same rooms as their pups – maybe it’s because they are more likely to be out in the day. Alikat – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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I have a lovely new puppy, an English Springer Spaniel of just eight weeks old. I live in Brockenhurst in the New Forest and look forward to talking him on walks in this lovely area. The question I would like to ask this group is – ‘Where should the little puppy be bedded down for the night?’ He was put in his own little basket in the kitchen of the night-time but he howled, cried and whimpered all through the night. It is breaking my girlfriends and my heart to hear him so distressed. But we have been told to let him cry and not to go to him as he will settle down after a few nights. It is now his third night of none-stop crying – are we doing the right thing in leaving him? He becomes so exhausted crying that he sleeps most of the day. David Ingram

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