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Brittany vs. French Brittany Spaniel

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> Are you by chance still in contact with your friend?  If it were convenient > for you to inquire, I would like to learn her opinion on whether the French > Brittanys are more calm/stable. > Jeff

Ok Jeff, I called TWO Dog trainers who train Britts (and Breed) Both say The French Britt, although a closer working dog, has less trainability. Is more hyper, tends to be attention deficit, is softer in temperament just more willful all at the same time.  They highly recommended Chilcotte Brittany’s since you are in the Florida Area. and suggested you forget the Frenchies. If the French  Are different across the pond, its because they apparently are shipping the ones they don’t want to the americans. (revenge from the war of 1812?)

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| > Are you by chance still in contact with your friend?  If it were convenient | > for you to inquire, I would like to learn her opinion on whether the French | > Brittanys are more calm/stable. | > | > Jeff | Ok Jeff, | I called TWO Dog trainers who train Britts (and Breed) Both say The | French Britt, although a closer working dog, has less trainability. Is | more hyper, tends to be attention deficit, is softer in temperament just | more willful all at the same time.  They highly recommended Chilcotte | Brittany’s since you are in the Florida Area. and suggested you forget | the Frenchies. If the French  Are different across the pond, its because | they apparently are shipping the ones they don’t want to the americans. | (revenge from the war of 1812?) Thanks a bunch for your efforts on my behalf!  That’s the kind of useful info I was looking for. Regarding the Chilcote Brittanys, it so happens that a several months back I corresponded with Nancy Chilcote and then met her, her husband, and one of her dogs at a dog show.  I was impressed with her breeding philosophies and her dog.  The only problem was that she had no upcoming litters. Jeff

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| If you had followed Jeff for some time, he has done a thorough search | for a dog breed (as a responsible dog owner would do) He did a thorough | list of dog requirements and environmental factors several months ago. | This is a synopsis of what he has discovered as he has narrowed down | his search, and is now seeking  confirmation from experience, if in fact | experience  aligns with what he found in research to be true. | To Jeff: | I have a good friend who breeds Dual Champion Brittanys. And your | research of brittanies seems to hold true. She has had French Brittanys, | and has had French Brittanys in for training. | My interactions with these dogs  has been equal to that of the american | brittany. | Being brought to the USA strictly for hunting purposes (since they arent | accepted by the AKC), you would think they would be excellent hunting | lines… But their abilities in these few but particular dogs were | harder to train than the dogs in Kathy’s kennel. (Kathy didn’t raise | them and she’s a professional trainer.. so environmental initial starts | may be a factor.) To be fair, i know Kathy is very selective about which | lines she uses because some lines are known not to be particularly | trainable for hunting than others. Like any breed, some lines are | avoided entirely. All of this is immaterial, as you never mentioned | hunting as a requirement. | All the other attributes you mentioned do ring true.  I have found them | to be easily trainable, a bit distractable, Wonderful tractable | temperament. Loves to run (and run and run) so should make a jogging | partner for you. They are gregarious and get along well with other dogs. | My male elkhound (when he was intact) would climb uncrated in  the van | back seat with one of her males that would be a total stranger, and BOTH | males would sit sit by side, and pretend to not see each other so there | wouldn’t risk an altercation. Only one male in 8 years ever gave any | problem. Now my male is neutered.. so the dynamics changed. (My male was | not the problem, she had one male that tried to make earring holes in my | guy.) Other than that one incident, I have found Brittanys to be | loveable, tractable, trainable dogs. I think your research has narrowed | down to an excellent choice. Good luck Thank you. Are you by chance still in contact with your friend?  If it were convenient for you to inquire, I would like to learn her opinion on whether the French Brittanys are more calm/stable. Jeff

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If you had followed Jeff for some time, he has done a thorough search for a dog breed (as a responsible dog owner would do) He did a thorough list of dog requirements and environmental factors several months ago. This is a synopsis of what he has discovered as he has narrowed down his search, and is now seeking  confirmation from experience, if in fact experience  aligns with what he found in research to be true. To Jeff: I have a good friend who breeds Dual Champion Brittanys. And your research of brittanies seems to hold true. She has had French Brittanys, and has had French Brittanys in for training. My interactions with these dogs  has been equal to that of the american brittany. Being brought to the USA strictly for hunting purposes (since they arent accepted by the AKC), you would think they would be excellent hunting lines… But their abilities in these few but particular dogs were harder to train than the dogs in Kathy’s kennel. (Kathy didn’t raise them and she’s a professional trainer.. so environmental initial starts may be a factor.) To be fair, i know Kathy is very selective about which lines she uses because some lines are known not to be particularly trainable for hunting than others. Like any breed, some lines are avoided entirely. All of this is immaterial, as you never mentioned hunting as a requirement. All the other attributes you mentioned do ring true.  I have found them to be easily trainable, a bit distractable, Wonderful tractable temperament. Loves to run (and run and run) so should make a jogging partner for you. They are gregarious and get along well with other dogs. My male elkhound (when he was intact) would climb uncrated in  the van back seat with one of her males that would be a total stranger, and BOTH males would sit sit by side, and pretend to not see each other so there wouldn’t risk an altercation. Only one male in 8 years ever gave any problem. Now my male is neutered.. so the dynamics changed. (My male was not the problem, she had one male that tried to make earring holes in my guy.) Other than that one incident, I have found Brittanys to be loveable, tractable, trainable dogs. I think your research has narrowed down to an excellent choice. Good luck

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve thought about getting a Brittany for some time.  The breed is, in many > respects, well-suited to my lifestyle and likes. > Among dogs, they rate as below. > PROS > Brighter than average > Athletic (for trail running) > Lower than average shedder, surprisingly > Able to handle FL heat better than average > Very sociable with family, children, strangers > Generally good with dogs > Generally good with other animals > CONS > Highly active indoors > Low behavioral constancy > Low emotional stability > May be fearful/nervous, especially in cities > May be distracted by novel stimuli > Tend to be restless > Can be hyperactive > May bark a lot when left alone > Tendency to roam > French Brittany Spaniel vs. Brittany > The French Brittany Spaniel, or epagneul breton, is said to be the original. > They allow black colorations, where the AKC Brittany allows only orange or > liver (on white).  (http://french-brittany.org/frbrit.htm) > Of more interest to me, they claim that the French Brittanys (that’s the > correct spelling) are *more emotionally and behaviorally stable*: that they > are mellow indoors and generally calmer. > Before I go traveling up north looking at French Brittany litters, I’d like > to know whether the temperament claims are accurate.  Anyone have any > insight on this or ideas on how I might find out? > Thanks. > Jeff > Jeff Harper > jeff#doplay.com

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I’ve thought about getting a Brittany for some time.  The breed is, in many respects, well-suited to my lifestyle and likes. Among dogs, they rate as below. PROS Brighter than average Athletic (for trail running) Lower than average shedder, surprisingly Able to handle FL heat better than average Very sociable with family, children, strangers Generally good with dogs Generally good with other animals CONS Highly active indoors Low behavioral constancy Low emotional stability May be fearful/nervous, especially in cities May be distracted by novel stimuli Tend to be restless Can be hyperactive May bark a lot when left alone Tendency to roam French Brittany Spaniel vs. Brittany The French Brittany Spaniel, or epagneul breton, is said to be the original. They allow black colorations, where the AKC Brittany allows only orange or liver (on white).  (http://french-brittany.org/frbrit.htm) Of more interest to me, they claim that the French Brittanys (that’s the correct spelling) are *more emotionally and behaviorally stable*: that they are mellow indoors and generally calmer. Before I go traveling up north looking at French Brittany litters, I’d like to know whether the temperament claims are accurate.  Anyone have any insight on this or ideas on how I might find out? Thanks. Jeff Jeff Harper jeff#doplay.com

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