OT: Burglar bars
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> Some alarm system companies will call the house if the alarm system goes > off. Smart burglars will answer the phone and say sorry I accidentally set > it off.
Alarm company: "No problem. What’s the password?" Glenn D.
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> Everyone keeps talking about how guns will protect you from burglars. > Bullshit! The last time my place was burglarized they took my rifle down > from the shelf in the closet and took it out of the case and looked at it. > I figure if it was a handgun they would have stolen it, but did not want to > walk down the street carrying a gun. > A lot of good that gun did for me!
Where were you at the time? I guess they only help if you’re there to pull the trigger ;-)
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > Thanks, > DA > I’d be very careful about blocking potential ways out of a burning building. > I think some types have a release from the inside. > Other ideas: > Alarm system (or at least a phony sign and window decals). > Cut any bushes away so they can be seen. > Lighting, although most burglaries happen during the day or whenver the person > works. > A dog, but NOT just as a watch dog, only if you love dogs and will treat it as > a family member.
Alarm systems don’t work either! I spoke with a police detective and he told me that most of the time they show up 30 minutes after the burglars have left. Plus in Seattle they ding you for a $45 annual permit and $150 false alarm fine. My neighbor disconnected her service after 2 false alarms. Alarm systems can also be easily defeated. Just cut the phone line wires. Most houses have a big gray box where the phone service connects to the house. Just cut the wire and your alarm system can not call anyone. Some alarm system companies will call the house if the alarm system goes off. Smart burglars will answer the phone and say sorry I accidentally set it off. David
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Big Dog & Colt Python .357magnum
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A better solution would be a musicians version of Lo-Jack, using > minituare RFID tags that could be tracked but would not be easy to see > or remove. > Andrea > Here’s the Snagg microchip website: > http://64.172.238.179/
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> Big Dog & Colt Python .357magnum
My S&W model 629 (.44mag) with hollow points is a pretty convincing thing 
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> Smith & Wesson make a mobile security system, very basic point and activate. > Second choice you can chain my ex-wife to front post ( if metal has been > known to chew through a 4X6)
Everyone keeps talking about how guns will protect you from burglars. Bullshit! The last time my place was burglarized they took my rifle down from the shelf in the closet and took it out of the case and looked at it. I figure if it was a handgun they would have stolen it, but did not want to walk down the street carrying a gun. A lot of good that gun did for me! DA
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> A better solution would be a musicians version of Lo-Jack, using > minituare RFID tags that could be tracked but would not be easy to see > or remove. > Andrea
Here’s the Snagg microchip website: http://64.172.238.179/
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Please tell me you have a safe for all those mobile security systems! You’re not always going to be home…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Mine is made by Ruger, Taurus, Marlin, Franchi, Mauser, H&K, Mossberg, CK, > et al. > Kirk > Smith & Wesson make a mobile security system, very basic point and > activate. > Second choice you can chain my ex-wife to front post ( if metal has been > known to chew through a 4X6) > > Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some > attractive > > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to > discourage > > theft. > > Thanks, > > DA
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> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft.
A couple of people have mentioned this, but let me emphasize it: Whatever you do, make absolutely certain that any bars you buy are approved for use in an occupancy and have a quick release mechanism that allows you to escape in case of a fire. There was a horrific case here a few years ago in which a fairly large family died in a fire that they all could have easily escaped had they not had burglar bars on their windows. Frankly, I think that there are probably better and safer solutions. Kate Ebneter Collector of Noise Toys
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Mine is made by Ruger, Taurus, Marlin, Franchi, Mauser, H&K, Mossberg, CK, et al. Kirk
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Smith & Wesson make a mobile security system, very basic point and activate. > Second choice you can chain my ex-wife to front post ( if metal has been > known to chew through a 4X6) > Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > Thanks, > DA
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Har har har Kirk
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > Sure, the bar around the corner has lots of burglars in it. > You have your choice of abandoned houses where I work. You could burgle > the bars off of any of those houses without raising an eyebrow. > Option three involves you buying Bud’s Hamburgler P/J bass. After you > go to sleep, the bass comes to life and pulls the perfect inside job. > You won’t have the nerve to tell the police some clown stole your gear. > — > O< "Go Red Wings!" > /() > ^^ Slidell, LA
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > A couple of people have mentioned this, but let me emphasize it: > Whatever you do, make absolutely certain that any bars you buy > are approved for use in an occupancy and have a quick release > mechanism that allows you to escape in case of a fire. > There was a horrific case here a few years ago in which a > fairly large family died in a fire that they all could have > easily escaped had they not had burglar bars on their windows. > Frankly, I think that there are probably better and safer > solutions. > Kate Ebneter > Collector of Noise Toys
A better solution would be a musicians version of Lo-Jack, using minituare RFID tags that could be tracked but would not be easy to see or remove. Andrea
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> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison!
Sure, the bar around the corner has lots of burglars in it. You have your choice of abandoned houses where I work. You could burgle the bars off of any of those houses without raising an eyebrow. Option three involves you buying Bud’s Hamburgler P/J bass. After you go to sleep, the bass comes to life and pulls the perfect inside job. You won’t have the nerve to tell the police some clown stole your gear. — O< "Go Red Wings!" /() ^^ Slidell, LA
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive >ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! >I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage >theft. >Thanks, >DA > Some thoughts: > Where do you live? Is there a local fine arts college where they teach > scupture? Often times, such college students will be more than happy to > freelance this type of work; they are very good with the aesthetics of > design and handy with metal, metal working, and a welding torch. They can > put some pizzaz in your grillwork, so that it’s both functional and a work > of art. It will cost you a few bucks. Good grill work doesn’t come cheap > (labor intensive and relatively costly raw materials) and art students > especially won’t be given over to being taken advantage of. But it won’t > cost nearly as much as if you went to an established metal working shop.
Hmmm… won’t the Fancy Metal Grill Workers Union get upset?
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>Some thoughts: >Where do you live? Is there a local fine arts college where they teach >scupture? Often times, such college students will be more than happy to >freelance this type of work; they are very good with the aesthetics of >design and handy with metal, metal working, and a welding torch. They can >put some pizzaz in your grillwork, so that it’s both functional and a work >of art. It will cost you a few bucks. Good grill work doesn’t come cheap >(labor intensive and relatively costly raw materials) and art students >especially won’t be given over to being taken advantage of. But it won’t >cost nearly as much as if you went to an established metal working shop.
This question got me thinking I should get some bars up. At work tonight I talked to one of the set shop carps at the theatre I was working and she said she’d weld me up some outta old bicycle frames. Free material and cheap if I do all the design, cutting and layout. Gonna figure out how to get some bug screen in the mid section so they can be left open these coming summer nights. jeffb
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> Smith & Wesson make a mobile security system, very basic point and activate. > Second choice you can chain my ex-wife to front post ( if metal has been > known to chew through a 4X6)
They eat you out of house and home. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > Thanks, > DA
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> Cut any bushes away so they (the windows) can be seen.
If you plant some thorny rose bushes… find a happy medium I’d let them crawl all the way up and over the windows myself — O< "Go Red Wings!" /() ^^ Slidell, LA
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> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > Thanks, > DA
Some thoughts: Where do you live? Is there a local fine arts college where they teach scupture? Often times, such college students will be more than happy to freelance this type of work; they are very good with the aesthetics of design and handy with metal, metal working, and a welding torch. They can put some pizzaz in your grillwork, so that it’s both functional and a work of art. It will cost you a few bucks. Good grill work doesn’t come cheap (labor intensive and relatively costly raw materials) and art students especially won’t be given over to being taken advantage of. But it won’t cost nearly as much as if you went to an established metal working shop. Also, don’t forget the simple effect of good curtains. Don’t be showing off your stuff. (D’oh, you knew that, but I thought it couldn’t hurt to state the obvious.) All that having been said, I’d suggest you find another location. Word will get out and your stuff will disappear one day. I’d make an effort to document every thing you’ve got. Use a digital camera and write down serial numbers and descriptions. In short, keep a good inventory of your pieces and keep a duplicate of the inventory somewhere else, like your place of work or your relative’s or neighbor’s house. Use it to get insurance and schedule each piece of equipment. This is a special kind of insurance, not your general homeowners blanket contents coverage. Any insurance person worth his/her salt will sell you the right kind of policy or rider. Good luck, Phil Symonds
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Smith & Wesson make a mobile security system, very basic point and activate. Second choice you can chain my ex-wife to front post ( if metal has been known to chew through a 4X6)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > Thanks, > DA
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> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > Thanks, > DA
I’d be very careful about blocking potential ways out of a burning building. I think some types have a release from the inside. Other ideas: Alarm system (or at least a phony sign and window decals). Cut any bushes away so they can be seen. Lighting, although most burglaries happen during the day or whenver the person works. A dog, but NOT just as a watch dog, only if you love dogs and will treat it as a family member.
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Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage theft. Thanks, DA
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> I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to > discourage theft.
Consider guard towers.
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> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > Thanks, > DA
Just keep in mind that whatever plan you come up with, don’t compromise your ability to get out in case of fire, etc. cheers…. HJA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Well, don’t play loud. Atrracts junkies with nothing to lose that will steal your shit. Happened to me.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to > discourage theft. > Consider guard towers.
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i’m doing the same thing in my new house. i’m going the 120 pound dog route.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well, don’t play loud. Atrracts junkies with nothing to lose that will > steal your shit. > Happened to me. > > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to > > discourage theft. > Consider guard towers.
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Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage theft. Thanks, DA
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> I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to > discourage theft.
Consider guard towers.
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> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > Thanks, > DA
Just keep in mind that whatever plan you come up with, don’t compromise your ability to get out in case of fire, etc. cheers…. HJA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Well, don’t play loud. Atrracts junkies with nothing to lose that will steal your shit. Happened to me.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to > discourage theft. > Consider guard towers.
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i’m doing the same thing in my new house. i’m going the 120 pound dog route.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well, don’t play loud. Atrracts junkies with nothing to lose that will > steal your shit. > Happened to me. > > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to > > discourage theft. > Consider guard towers.
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> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > Thanks, > DA
Some thoughts: Where do you live? Is there a local fine arts college where they teach scupture? Often times, such college students will be more than happy to freelance this type of work; they are very good with the aesthetics of design and handy with metal, metal working, and a welding torch. They can put some pizzaz in your grillwork, so that it’s both functional and a work of art. It will cost you a few bucks. Good grill work doesn’t come cheap (labor intensive and relatively costly raw materials) and art students especially won’t be given over to being taken advantage of. But it won’t cost nearly as much as if you went to an established metal working shop. Also, don’t forget the simple effect of good curtains. Don’t be showing off your stuff. (D’oh, you knew that, but I thought it couldn’t hurt to state the obvious.) All that having been said, I’d suggest you find another location. Word will get out and your stuff will disappear one day. I’d make an effort to document every thing you’ve got. Use a digital camera and write down serial numbers and descriptions. In short, keep a good inventory of your pieces and keep a duplicate of the inventory somewhere else, like your place of work or your relative’s or neighbor’s house. Use it to get insurance and schedule each piece of equipment. This is a special kind of insurance, not your general homeowners blanket contents coverage. Any insurance person worth his/her salt will sell you the right kind of policy or rider. Good luck, Phil Symonds
Response:
Smith & Wesson make a mobile security system, very basic point and activate. Second choice you can chain my ex-wife to front post ( if metal has been known to chew through a 4X6)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > Thanks, > DA
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> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > Thanks, > DA
I’d be very careful about blocking potential ways out of a burning building. I think some types have a release from the inside. Other ideas: Alarm system (or at least a phony sign and window decals). Cut any bushes away so they can be seen. Lighting, although most burglaries happen during the day or whenver the person works. A dog, but NOT just as a watch dog, only if you love dogs and will treat it as a family member.
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> Smith & Wesson make a mobile security system, very basic point and activate. > Second choice you can chain my ex-wife to front post ( if metal has been > known to chew through a 4X6)
They eat you out of house and home. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > Thanks, > DA
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> Cut any bushes away so they (the windows) can be seen.
If you plant some thorny rose bushes… find a happy medium I’d let them crawl all the way up and over the windows myself — O< "Go Red Wings!" /() ^^ Slidell, LA
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>Some thoughts: >Where do you live? Is there a local fine arts college where they teach >scupture? Often times, such college students will be more than happy to >freelance this type of work; they are very good with the aesthetics of >design and handy with metal, metal working, and a welding torch. They can >put some pizzaz in your grillwork, so that it’s both functional and a work >of art. It will cost you a few bucks. Good grill work doesn’t come cheap >(labor intensive and relatively costly raw materials) and art students >especially won’t be given over to being taken advantage of. But it won’t >cost nearly as much as if you went to an established metal working shop.
This question got me thinking I should get some bars up. At work tonight I talked to one of the set shop carps at the theatre I was working and she said she’d weld me up some outta old bicycle frames. Free material and cheap if I do all the design, cutting and layout. Gonna figure out how to get some bug screen in the mid section so they can be left open these coming summer nights. jeffb
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> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison!
Sure, the bar around the corner has lots of burglars in it. You have your choice of abandoned houses where I work. You could burgle the bars off of any of those houses without raising an eyebrow. Option three involves you buying Bud’s Hamburgler P/J bass. After you go to sleep, the bass comes to life and pulls the perfect inside job. You won’t have the nerve to tell the police some clown stole your gear. — O< "Go Red Wings!" /() ^^ Slidell, LA
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> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft.
A couple of people have mentioned this, but let me emphasize it: Whatever you do, make absolutely certain that any bars you buy are approved for use in an occupancy and have a quick release mechanism that allows you to escape in case of a fire. There was a horrific case here a few years ago in which a fairly large family died in a fire that they all could have easily escaped had they not had burglar bars on their windows. Frankly, I think that there are probably better and safer solutions. Kate Ebneter Collector of Noise Toys
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Mine is made by Ruger, Taurus, Marlin, Franchi, Mauser, H&K, Mossberg, CK, et al. Kirk
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Smith & Wesson make a mobile security system, very basic point and activate. > Second choice you can chain my ex-wife to front post ( if metal has been > known to chew through a 4X6) > Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > Thanks, > DA
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Har har har Kirk
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > Sure, the bar around the corner has lots of burglars in it. > You have your choice of abandoned houses where I work. You could burgle > the bars off of any of those houses without raising an eyebrow. > Option three involves you buying Bud’s Hamburgler P/J bass. After you > go to sleep, the bass comes to life and pulls the perfect inside job. > You won’t have the nerve to tell the police some clown stole your gear. > — > O< "Go Red Wings!" > /() > ^^ Slidell, LA
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > A couple of people have mentioned this, but let me emphasize it: > Whatever you do, make absolutely certain that any bars you buy > are approved for use in an occupancy and have a quick release > mechanism that allows you to escape in case of a fire. > There was a horrific case here a few years ago in which a > fairly large family died in a fire that they all could have > easily escaped had they not had burglar bars on their windows. > Frankly, I think that there are probably better and safer > solutions. > Kate Ebneter > Collector of Noise Toys
A better solution would be a musicians version of Lo-Jack, using minituare RFID tags that could be tracked but would not be easy to see or remove. Andrea
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive >ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! >I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage >theft. >Thanks, >DA > Some thoughts: > Where do you live? Is there a local fine arts college where they teach > scupture? Often times, such college students will be more than happy to > freelance this type of work; they are very good with the aesthetics of > design and handy with metal, metal working, and a welding torch. They can > put some pizzaz in your grillwork, so that it’s both functional and a work > of art. It will cost you a few bucks. Good grill work doesn’t come cheap > (labor intensive and relatively costly raw materials) and art students > especially won’t be given over to being taken advantage of. But it won’t > cost nearly as much as if you went to an established metal working shop.
Hmmm… won’t the Fancy Metal Grill Workers Union get upset?
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> A better solution would be a musicians version of Lo-Jack, using > minituare RFID tags that could be tracked but would not be easy to see > or remove. > Andrea
Here’s the Snagg microchip website: http://64.172.238.179/
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Please tell me you have a safe for all those mobile security systems! You’re not always going to be home…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Mine is made by Ruger, Taurus, Marlin, Franchi, Mauser, H&K, Mossberg, CK, > et al. > Kirk > Smith & Wesson make a mobile security system, very basic point and > activate. > Second choice you can chain my ex-wife to front post ( if metal has been > known to chew through a 4X6) > > Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some > attractive > > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to > discourage > > theft. > > Thanks, > > DA
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Big Dog & Colt Python .357magnum
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A better solution would be a musicians version of Lo-Jack, using > minituare RFID tags that could be tracked but would not be easy to see > or remove. > Andrea > Here’s the Snagg microchip website: > http://64.172.238.179/
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> Big Dog & Colt Python .357magnum
My S&W model 629 (.44mag) with hollow points is a pretty convincing thing
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> Smith & Wesson make a mobile security system, very basic point and activate. > Second choice you can chain my ex-wife to front post ( if metal has been > known to chew through a 4X6)
Everyone keeps talking about how guns will protect you from burglars. Bullshit! The last time my place was burglarized they took my rifle down from the shelf in the closet and took it out of the case and looked at it. I figure if it was a handgun they would have stolen it, but did not want to walk down the street carrying a gun. A lot of good that gun did for me! DA
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anybody have a source for burglar bars. I would like some attractive > ones that don’t look like I am living in a prison! > I am setting up a band room in a daylight basement and want to discourage > theft. > Thanks, > DA > I’d be very careful about blocking potential ways out of a burning building. > I think some types have a release from the inside. > Other ideas: > Alarm system (or at least a phony sign and window decals). > Cut any bushes away so they can be seen. > Lighting, although most burglaries happen during the day or whenver the person > works. > A dog, but NOT just as a watch dog, only if you love dogs and will treat it as > a family member.
Alarm systems don’t work either! I spoke with a police detective and he told me that most of the time they show up 30 minutes after the burglars have left. Plus in Seattle they ding you for a $45 annual permit and $150 false alarm fine. My neighbor disconnected her service after 2 false alarms. Alarm systems can also be easily defeated. Just cut the phone line wires. Most houses have a big gray box where the phone service connects to the house. Just cut the wire and your alarm system can not call anyone. Some alarm system companies will call the house if the alarm system goes off. Smart burglars will answer the phone and say sorry I accidentally set it off. David
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Smith & Wesson make a mobile security system, very basic point and >activate. > Second choice you can chain my ex-wife to front post ( if metal has been > known to chew through a 4X6) >Everyone keeps talking about how guns will protect you from burglars. >Bullshit! The last time my place was burglarized they took my rifle down >from the shelf in the closet and took it out of the case and looked at it. >I figure if it was a handgun they would have stolen it, but did not want to >walk down the street carrying a gun. >A lot of good that gun did for me! >DA
Guns won’t do shit for you, unless you’re there, and the gun is loaded (and you need to know what you’re doing). German Shepherds (or name your favorite breed) will do a lot more for your protection. And unlike a home owner who’s being burglarize, the dog is thinking very clearly in this situation. Pete — My God! It’s the future. –Fry
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> Some alarm system companies will call the house if the alarm system goes > off. Smart burglars will answer the phone and say sorry I accidentally set > it off.
Alarm company: "No problem. What’s the password?" Glenn D.
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