Ignoring a barking golden retriever
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > | I’m only in the dog’s life five times a week, and I hardly ever eat in > | front of him. His owner says she ignores him when he barks, but I > | don’t know. Thanks. > Given that new info, I can think of *only one technique that will work for > you*. > Teach the dog to bark on command, "speak." Should be exceptionally easy to > do with this particular Golden 
Once the dog knows how to do that, you > can then fairly easily teach the "quiet" or "enough barking" command. > One word of caution here. Don’t teach the "quiet" command by reprimanding > the dog–especially if you have just told her to "speak." > Here are two links with info on how to teach "quiet" (and more about barking > problems): > http://www.doggiedoor.com/barking.shtml > http://www.ddfl.org/behavior/barkingdog.htm > Good luck. > Let us know how it goes. > Jeff > Jeff Harper > jeff#doplay.com
I don’t know if you were kidding with this one, Jeff, but I tried it. He barked bigtime when I had some of his biscuits, so I did the "speak" then "okay…don’t speak" or "shhhh," and it worked pretty well. Another question: is there a way to get a puppy to stop licking you? This wasn’t a problem with my last dog, because he didn’t lick every disgusting thing he saw. But this dog, oy, there’s nothing he won’t put in his mouth. And I do mean NOTHING. OTOH, I wouldn’t want to train every last ounce of affection and personality out of him, either. Thanks, Jay
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > | > | I’m only in the dog’s life five times a week, and I hardly ever eat in > | > | front of him. His owner says she ignores him when he barks, but I > | > | don’t know. Thanks. > | > > | > Given that new info, I can think of *only one technique that will work > for > | > you*. > | > > | > Teach the dog to bark on command, "speak." Should be exceptionally easy > to > | > do with this particular Golden Once the dog knows how to do that, > you > | > can then fairly easily teach the "quiet" or "enough barking" command. > | > > | > One word of caution here. Don’t teach the "quiet" command by > reprimanding > | > the dog–especially if you have just told her to "speak." > | > > | > Here are two links with info on how to teach "quiet" (and more about > barking > | > problems): > | > http://www.doggiedoor.com/barking.shtml > | > http://www.ddfl.org/behavior/barkingdog.htm > | > > | > Good luck. > | > > | > Let us know how it goes. > | > > | > Jeff > | > > | > Jeff Harper > | > jeff#doplay.com > | > | I don’t know if you were kidding with this one, Jeff, but I tried it. > | He barked bigtime when I had some of his biscuits, so I did the > | "speak" then "okay…don’t speak" or "shhhh," and it worked pretty > | well. > | > | Another question: is there a way to get a puppy to stop licking you? > | This wasn’t a problem with my last dog, because he didn’t lick every > | disgusting thing he saw. But this dog, oy, there’s nothing he won’t > | put in his mouth. And I do mean NOTHING. > | > | OTOH, I wouldn’t want to train every last ounce of affection and > | personality out of him, either. > | > | Thanks, Jay > I was serious. But even so, I am surprised you had such good results so > quickly. Must be a smart dog. Don’t expect it to stick after one lesson. > You have to spend a few minutes teaching it (make learning fun and brief) > every day or so for a while. > I don’t know the best way to get the puppy to stop licking. This is > frequently a phase the dog grows out of. Also, he will probably eventually > learn to pick up on your receptiveness–read you–and lick when you are > likely to be pleased by it. He’ll do that without training, most likely. > Of course, you could teach him "lick" as a command and then "enough lick" > Note of caution: there are a lot of quack dog training theorists out there > that will advise you that your puppy is trying to dominate you and that you > need to stop him to show him you are alpha. That’s all BS, but it gets > published. These people will tell you to do some unpleasant things to your > friend when he is just being affectionate, and while the techniques may get > him to stop licking/mouthing, they will damage his self-esteem (dog’s > definitely have this) and his relationship/trust with you. > Most problems with dogs are communications problems. And, being the human, > the owner is the one responsible for communicating the right message to the > dog, getting it to understand what is desired. Unlike you, most owners > don’t take the time to think about a "problem" from the dog’s perspective > and then put in the few minutes every now and then to teach the dog. They > just blame the dumb dog. Another owner with the same dog might easily teach > him in a positive way and remedy the problem. > Another thought along those lines. Lots of people think dogs are dumb > because they don’t understand what people mean. But if that is the > criteria, I have to point out that dogs understand a lot more human > signals–words, tone, body language, etc.–than most people understand dog > signals–combinations of body posture, sounds. movements, eye contact, etc. > Regards, > Jeff > Jeff Harper > jeff#doplay.com
Oh, I didn’t mean he had it down perfectly. But compared to the day before, it was like night and day. And we only tried it a couple of times. I do think he’s pretty smart, though. And I know what you mean about this being a communication problem. I try to think of what the dog might know, and how he’s expressing his wants. I’m trying to help wean him off of newspaper left in the kitchen most of all, and he had a real breakthrough with that yesterday. I took him out to his spot yesterday, and he pissed and pooped, then we went back inside right away, he had a snack (biscuits). Then I waited a couple of hours, during which time we played, and worked on the barking thing. Then I acted like I was ready to leave, and he insisted upon coming along, and he pissed and pooped again, and it was a good day for him. I didn’t leave him any more water to drink. His mother was coming home in an hour-hour and a half. Thanks, Jay
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| > | I’m only in the dog’s life five times a week, and I hardly ever eat in | > | front of him. His owner says she ignores him when he barks, but I | > | don’t know. Thanks. | > | > Given that new info, I can think of *only one technique that will work for | > you*. | > | > Teach the dog to bark on command, "speak." Should be exceptionally easy to | > do with this particular Golden Once the dog knows how to do that, you | > can then fairly easily teach the "quiet" or "enough barking" command. | > | > One word of caution here. Don’t teach the "quiet" command by reprimanding | > the dog–especially if you have just told her to "speak." | > | > Here are two links with info on how to teach "quiet" (and more about barking | > problems): | > http://www.doggiedoor.com/barking.shtml | > http://www.ddfl.org/behavior/barkingdog.htm | > | > Good luck. | > | > Let us know how it goes. | > | > Jeff | > | > Jeff Harper | > jeff#doplay.com | | I don’t know if you were kidding with this one, Jeff, but I tried it. | He barked bigtime when I had some of his biscuits, so I did the | "speak" then "okay…don’t speak" or "shhhh," and it worked pretty | well. | | Another question: is there a way to get a puppy to stop licking you? | This wasn’t a problem with my last dog, because he didn’t lick every | disgusting thing he saw. But this dog, oy, there’s nothing he won’t | put in his mouth. And I do mean NOTHING. | | OTOH, I wouldn’t want to train every last ounce of affection and | personality out of him, either. | | Thanks, Jay I was serious. But even so, I am surprised you had such good results so quickly. Must be a smart dog. Don’t expect it to stick after one lesson. You have to spend a few minutes teaching it (make learning fun and brief) every day or so for a while. I don’t know the best way to get the puppy to stop licking. This is frequently a phase the dog grows out of. Also, he will probably eventually learn to pick up on your receptiveness–read you–and lick when you are likely to be pleased by it. He’ll do that without training, most likely. Of course, you could teach him "lick" as a command and then "enough lick" Note of caution: there are a lot of quack dog training theorists out there that will advise you that your puppy is trying to dominate you and that you need to stop him to show him you are alpha. That’s all BS, but it gets published. These people will tell you to do some unpleasant things to your friend when he is just being affectionate, and while the techniques may get him to stop licking/mouthing, they will damage his self-esteem (dog’s definitely have this) and his relationship/trust with you. Most problems with dogs are communications problems. And, being the human, the owner is the one responsible for communicating the right message to the dog, getting it to understand what is desired. Unlike you, most owners don’t take the time to think about a "problem" from the dog’s perspective and then put in the few minutes every now and then to teach the dog. They just blame the dumb dog. Another owner with the same dog might easily teach him in a positive way and remedy the problem. Another thought along those lines. Lots of people think dogs are dumb because they don’t understand what people mean. But if that is the criteria, I have to point out that dogs understand a lot more human signals–words, tone, body language, etc.–than most people understand dog signals–combinations of body posture, sounds. movements, eye contact, etc. Regards, Jeff Jeff Harper jeff#doplay.com
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>neither of you are EVEr allowed into my home!!!!!!! >*G*
Uh-huh. It’s okay. The kids and dogs will let us in. ~~Judy Almost everything in life is easier to get into than out of.
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> By the way, not feeding a dog when you are eating in front of him, if you > are 100% consistent, can be kind to the dog. A dog that knows he is not > going to get any table scraps may just ignore the diners, even wander off. > A dog that sometimes gets them, will pine for them.
Mine know what they may or may not get from me. Piece of pizza crust? Highly likely if they play it cool. Chips or cookies? Has never happened and never will — I can sit and eat them without getting the eye. kassa
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EeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvviiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiLL….
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->neither of you are EVEr allowed into my home!!!!!!! >*G* > Uh-huh. It’s okay. The kids and dogs will let us in. > ~~Judy > Almost everything in life is easier to get into than out of.
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neither of you are EVEr allowed into my home!!!!!!! *G*
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I like to feed other people’s dogs food at the table > Me too. I also slip their kids sugary stuff. > ~~Judy > Almost everything in life is easier to get into than out of.
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| I’m only in the dog’s life five times a week, and I hardly ever eat in | front of him. His owner says she ignores him when he barks, but I | don’t know. Thanks. Given that new info, I can think of *only one technique that will work for you*. Teach the dog to bark on command, "speak." Should be exceptionally easy to do with this particular Golden Once the dog knows how to do that, you can then fairly easily teach the "quiet" or "enough barking" command. One word of caution here. Don’t teach the "quiet" command by reprimanding the dog–especially if you have just told her to "speak." Here are two links with info on how to teach "quiet" (and more about barking problems): http://www.doggiedoor.com/barking.shtml http://www.ddfl.org/behavior/barkingdog.htm Good luck. Let us know how it goes. Jeff Jeff Harper jeff#doplay.com
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > | I walk a golden retriever puppy every day who barks for food when he > | sees people eating. I was eating pizza when we came in today, and he > | started barking his ass off. I ignored him to the best of my ability, > | then, when he had stopped barking for awhile, I gave him a small piece > | of crust. > | > | My intention was to reward his stopping barking. > | > | He started barking again when I got another slice, and wouldn’t stop. > | I ignored him again. He refused to stop barking again before I > | finished eating, so no more crust for him. > | > | Did I do the right thing? I haven’t had a puppy in years. I figure > | it’s not my responsibility to train him. He’s not my dog. But I didn’t > | want to reinforce bad behavior. (OTOH, I feel guilty eating in front > | of him. Pizza’s got to taste better than kibble.) > Interesting question. I can only theorize. I think your technique would > eventually work. I would think you could more quickly break him of the > barking by not feeding him your food at all. > The problem is that somebody fed him when he barked, probably frequently. > That’s a lot to undo. But can be achieved–so long as you are 100% > consistent. If you occasionally feed him when he barks, you can forget > about changing his behavior. > By the way, not feeding a dog when you are eating in front of him, if you > are 100% consistent, can be kind to the dog. A dog that knows he is not > going to get any table scraps may just ignore the diners, even wander off. > A dog that sometimes gets them, will pine for them. > I like to feed other people’s dogs food at the table > Jeff > Jeff Harper > jeff#doplay.com
I’m only in the dog’s life five times a week, and I hardly ever eat in front of him. His owner says she ignores him when he barks, but I don’t know. Thanks.
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>I like to feed other people’s dogs food at the table
Me too. I also slip their kids sugary stuff. ~~Judy Almost everything in life is easier to get into than out of.
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That makes sense, that he’d bark to get the whole interaction started again. I’ll try the leash idea next time I eat in front of him. Thanks. As for no pizza, his owner feeds him stuff like that, so I’m afraid the one hour a day I’m there won’t make much difference in terms of his diet. Jay – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > well… you can avoid giving him people food altogether! Right now we are > working on our licorice, (black lab pup) to behave at the table. We put her > leash on her, and if she jumps we hold the leash down under a table leg or > under our foot, and she just settles down and eventually falls asleep. Some > days as soon as we put the leash on her she just lays down and sleeps. > Ignore him completely, and if you are going to reward him for any behaviour, > make sure its for NOT barking at all! and give him treats only!! or even > his regular kibble… > if you reward for stopping barking, they may bark just to get the reward > afterwards. if you pay no attention to them, they have to learn another way > of getting attention. sitting looking at you quietly is a good way, as well > as lying down by you. > I walk a golden retriever puppy every day who barks for food when he > sees people eating. I was eating pizza when we came in today, and he > started barking his ass off. I ignored him to the best of my ability, > then, when he had stopped barking for awhile, I gave him a small piece > of crust. > My intention was to reward his stopping barking. > He started barking again when I got another slice, and wouldn’t stop. > I ignored him again. He refused to stop barking again before I > finished eating, so no more crust for him. > Did I do the right thing? I haven’t had a puppy in years. I figure > it’s not my responsibility to train him. He’s not my dog. But I didn’t > want to reinforce bad behavior. (OTOH, I feel guilty eating in front > of him. Pizza’s got to taste better than kibble.) > Thanks.
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| I walk a golden retriever puppy every day who barks for food when he | sees people eating. I was eating pizza when we came in today, and he | started barking his ass off. I ignored him to the best of my ability, | then, when he had stopped barking for awhile, I gave him a small piece | of crust. | | My intention was to reward his stopping barking. | | He started barking again when I got another slice, and wouldn’t stop. | I ignored him again. He refused to stop barking again before I | finished eating, so no more crust for him. | | Did I do the right thing? I haven’t had a puppy in years. I figure | it’s not my responsibility to train him. He’s not my dog. But I didn’t | want to reinforce bad behavior. (OTOH, I feel guilty eating in front | of him. Pizza’s got to taste better than kibble.) Interesting question. I can only theorize. I think your technique would eventually work. I would think you could more quickly break him of the barking by not feeding him your food at all. The problem is that somebody fed him when he barked, probably frequently. That’s a lot to undo. But can be achieved–so long as you are 100% consistent. If you occasionally feed him when he barks, you can forget about changing his behavior. By the way, not feeding a dog when you are eating in front of him, if you are 100% consistent, can be kind to the dog. A dog that knows he is not going to get any table scraps may just ignore the diners, even wander off. A dog that sometimes gets them, will pine for them. I like to feed other people’s dogs food at the table Jeff Jeff Harper jeff#doplay.com
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I walk a golden retriever puppy every day who barks for food when he sees people eating. I was eating pizza when we came in today, and he started barking his ass off. I ignored him to the best of my ability, then, when he had stopped barking for awhile, I gave him a small piece of crust. My intention was to reward his stopping barking. He started barking again when I got another slice, and wouldn’t stop. I ignored him again. He refused to stop barking again before I finished eating, so no more crust for him. Did I do the right thing? I haven’t had a puppy in years. I figure it’s not my responsibility to train him. He’s not my dog. But I didn’t want to reinforce bad behavior. (OTOH, I feel guilty eating in front of him. Pizza’s got to taste better than kibble.) Thanks.
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well… you can avoid giving him people food altogether! Right now we are working on our licorice, (black lab pup) to behave at the table. We put her leash on her, and if she jumps we hold the leash down under a table leg or under our foot, and she just settles down and eventually falls asleep. Some days as soon as we put the leash on her she just lays down and sleeps. Ignore him completely, and if you are going to reward him for any behaviour, make sure its for NOT barking at all! and give him treats only!! or even his regular kibble… if you reward for stopping barking, they may bark just to get the reward afterwards. if you pay no attention to them, they have to learn another way of getting attention. sitting looking at you quietly is a good way, as well as lying down by you.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I walk a golden retriever puppy every day who barks for food when he > sees people eating. I was eating pizza when we came in today, and he > started barking his ass off. I ignored him to the best of my ability, > then, when he had stopped barking for awhile, I gave him a small piece > of crust. > My intention was to reward his stopping barking. > He started barking again when I got another slice, and wouldn’t stop. > I ignored him again. He refused to stop barking again before I > finished eating, so no more crust for him. > Did I do the right thing? I haven’t had a puppy in years. I figure > it’s not my responsibility to train him. He’s not my dog. But I didn’t > want to reinforce bad behavior. (OTOH, I feel guilty eating in front > of him. Pizza’s got to taste better than kibble.) > Thanks.
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