dog colors
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dog colors have got to be a female thing…y’all just get a kick out of naming the same color 50 different ways, don’t ya? Paul…who has been through this female-trying-to-confuse-the-guy-and-still-ain’t-sure-if-he-survived-it thing before…
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>> red (dobes) > chocolate (labs) > liver (pointers) > bronze (newfs) > for the same color!
Don’t forget "Deadgrass" Jana &Bonnie
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>Sticking with bb dogs for the moment, I can think of: >red (dobes) >chocolate (labs) >liver (pointers) >bronze (newfs)
don’t forget these: brown (poodles + many other breeds) bark (Finnish Lapphund and Lapponian herder) deadgrass (Chesapeake Bay retriever) Liisa
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>I was told my 7 week old female is Merle because she has a >half brown and half blue eye
Not necessarily….there are a number of breeds that can have different colored eyes, or half and half colored eyes that are not merles. Siberian Huskies, Berners(I don’t think these are allowed in the conformation ring) are two that come immediately to mind. Virginia Cleary Rihadin Kennels http://rihadin.freeservers.com & The Crafty K9 http://craftyk9.theshoppe.com Phoenix, AZ
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>silver Gg, and a "blue" Collie is black-based merle. >In >some breeds "red" dogs are dark bb chocolates (Doberman), > Sticking with bb dogs for the moment, I can think of: > red (dobes) > chocolate (labs) > liver (pointers) > bronze (newfs) > for the same color!
And bb in American water spaniels (all are bb) can be – Chocolate Liver *-or-* Brown depending on shade. (We spent a bit of time trying to figure out which he was for the registration). Melissa > –Cindy > —
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>silver Gg, and a "blue" Collie is black-based merle. >In >some breeds "red" dogs are dark bb chocolates (Doberman),
Sticking with bb dogs for the moment, I can think of: red (dobes) chocolate (labs) liver (pointers) bronze (newfs) for the same color! –Cindy —
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<all you ever need to know about color in dogs> Saved, and I intend to visit the sites. Thanks Liisa. — Toni www.irish-wolfhounds.com Click the "Update on Steve"
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Wow, what a great collection of sites! Thanks for posting them, Liisa! Shelly, Coda & Guiness…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->The definitions of different colors confused me a lot at first too, like the >brindle/merle mixup, and still do with some, enough that I’d like to put up a >page with as many colors and combos as possible. For example, tan, brown, > Yes, you can do that. Just remember that same words in different > breeds mean totally different things. Like BLUE. If it is a Dane, it > is dd dilute. A "blue" Poodle is dark grey, perhaps heterozygous > silver Gg, and a "blue" Collie is black-based merle. And RED. In > some breeds "red" dogs are dark bb chocolates (Doberman), in other > lighter bb chocolates (Siberian Husky) and in most breeds either > bright Ay sables (Mastiff) or rufous ee recessive yellows (Irish > Setter). > And if your light YELLOWish dog is a Boxer, it is fawn. If it is a > Poodle, it is cream. An English Setter is lemon, an American Cocker > is buff, Wheaten Terrier is – right – wheaten, Labrador is yellow, > Golden Retriever is golden. in some breeds it might be champagne, > straw-colored or something else. > Here is my collection of dog color sites, go through these and enjoy: > FCI group 1 – Sheepdogs and Cattledogs > German Shepherd > http://www.cluebus.com/holly/gsdfaq.html#Color > http://www.jmadesign.com/Frankenhaus/colorgen.htm > http://www.geocities.com/sahiela2/colors.html > Australian Cattle Dog > http://www.ar.com.au/~norclark/acdcoat.htm > Australian Shepherd > http://members.aol.com/Aussieluv/white.htm > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/3559/index.htm > http://asca.org/Education/Advanced/whitedeaf.htm > http://aussie.mercurialmedia.com/genetics.stm > Collie > http://www.oricom.ca/crowned/page6.htm > Shetland Sheepdog > http://bowlingsite.mcf.com/Genetics/Photindex.html > http://members.aol.com/trainerk9/gallery.html > http://www.dogpatch.org/sheltie/sheltpic.cfm > Border Collie > http://www.gis.net/~shepdog/BC_Museum/Permanent/BC_Looks_Health.html > http://www.bit.net.au/~fidelis/colours.htm > http://www.stas.net/6/colliecorner/01intro.htm > Welsh Corgi Cardigan > http://www.phi-vestavia.com/cardigan_colors.htm > http://www.cwcorgi.com/Aragorn/genetics.htm > Welsh Corgi Pembroke > http://www.pembrokecorgi.org/CorgiColor.html > http://www.pembrokecorgi.org/art_color.html > FCI group 2 – Pinschers, Schnauzers, Moloss type and Swiss Cattledogs > Doberman > http://www.dpca.org/color.chart.5.html > http://www.geocities.com/~amazondoc/albinism/#albinoinheritance > Giant Schnauzer > http://www.schnauzerware.org/planet/colour-g.htm > Miniature Schnauzer > http://www.schnauzerware.org/planet/colour-m.htm > http://www.mscc.ca/article.html > http://www.katewerk.com/color.html > Boxer > http://hometown.aol.com/viladabxrs/boxercm.html > http://www.erinet.com/ghost/colors.htm > http://frontpage.lightspeed.net/bixl/color.htm > Shar Pei > http://www.shar-pei.com/Color.htm > Great Dane > http://www.greatdanerescueinc.com/DaneGenetics.html > http://hometown.aol.com/greatdanerescue/colors.html > http://home.flash.net/~dby/chlinx.htm#linkgdcolor > English Mastiff > http://www.mindspring.com/~molepharmer/mastiff/colorinh.htm > FCI group 3 – Terriers > American Rat Terrier > http://www.nrta.com/newratstandards3.html > FCI group 4 – Dachshunds > http://www.doxieskennel.com/colors.html > http://www.calabel.net/discussiondapple.htm > http://www.dachsie.org/colors.html > FCI group 5 – Spitz and primitive types > Keeshond > http://www.calweb.com/~jabber/art_001.htm > http://www.calweb.com/~jabber/orange/art_orange.htm > Siberian Husky > http://mail.globalbiz.net/~siberian/genetic.html > http://www.shca.org/shcahp5a.htm > Akita > http://www.hypercon.com/doginfo/dogsection/articles/spots1.html > Finnish Lapphund > http://www.hut.fi/u/lsarakon/koira/ > FCI group 6 – Scent Hounds and related breeds > Dalmatian > http://www.geocities.com/~paisleydals/color.html > http://www.shoal.net.au/~ndcdalmatian/cattanach.html > Rhodesian Ridgeback > http://www.adevnet.fr/dogmag/rhrilngb.htm > FCI group 7 – Pointing Dogs > Spinone > http://www.spinone.com/genetics.htm > FCI group 8 – Retrievers – Flushing Dogs – Water Dogs > Labrador Retriever > http://labbies.com/genetics.htm > http://labbies.com/genetics2.htm > Chesapeake Bay Retriever > http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Farm/1276/colours.html > American Cocker Spaniel > http://www.cockerspanielinformation.com/ > English Cocker Spaniel > http://www.stirling-ecs.org/general/general_info.html > FCI group 9 – Companions and Toys > Poodle > http://www.magma.ca/~kaitlin/poodle/pdlcolor.html > Lhasa Apso > http://www.lhasa-apso.org/health/coatcolr.htm > Havanese > http://www1.tip.nl/~t031186/color.html > FCI group 10 – Sighthounds > Afghan Hound > http://www.hosanna1.com/Genetics/ > Borzoi > http://www.borzois.com/coat.color/coat.color.html > Saluki > http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~brown/dogs/genetics/color-genetics… > Whippet > http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/atl/d/d/ddoggone/Genetics/Genetics.htm > Liisa
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>The definitions of different colors confused me a lot at first too, like the >brindle/merle mixup, and still do with some, enough that I’d like to put up a >page with as many colors and combos as possible. For example, tan, brown,
Yes, you can do that. Just remember that same words in different breeds mean totally different things. Like BLUE. If it is a Dane, it is dd dilute. A "blue" Poodle is dark grey, perhaps heterozygous silver Gg, and a "blue" Collie is black-based merle. And RED. In some breeds "red" dogs are dark bb chocolates (Doberman), in other lighter bb chocolates (Siberian Husky) and in most breeds either bright Ay sables (Mastiff) or rufous ee recessive yellows (Irish Setter). And if your light YELLOWish dog is a Boxer, it is fawn. If it is a Poodle, it is cream. An English Setter is lemon, an American Cocker is buff, Wheaten Terrier is – right – wheaten, Labrador is yellow, Golden Retriever is golden. in some breeds it might be champagne, straw-colored or something else. Here is my collection of dog color sites, go through these and enjoy: FCI group 1 – Sheepdogs and Cattledogs German Shepherd http://www.cluebus.com/holly/gsdfaq.html#Color http://www.jmadesign.com/Frankenhaus/colorgen.htm http://www.geocities.com/sahiela2/colors.html Australian Cattle Dog http://www.ar.com.au/~norclark/acdcoat.htm Australian Shepherd http://members.aol.com/Aussieluv/white.htm http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/3559/index.htm http://asca.org/Education/Advanced/whitedeaf.htm http://aussie.mercurialmedia.com/genetics.stm Collie http://www.oricom.ca/crowned/page6.htm Shetland Sheepdog http://bowlingsite.mcf.com/Genetics/Photindex.html http://members.aol.com/trainerk9/gallery.html http://www.dogpatch.org/sheltie/sheltpic.cfm Border Collie http://www.gis.net/~shepdog/BC_Museum/Permanent/BC_Looks_Health.html http://www.bit.net.au/~fidelis/colours.htm http://www.stas.net/6/colliecorner/01intro.htm Welsh Corgi Cardigan http://www.phi-vestavia.com/cardigan_colors.htm http://www.cwcorgi.com/Aragorn/genetics.htm Welsh Corgi Pembroke http://www.pembrokecorgi.org/CorgiColor.html http://www.pembrokecorgi.org/art_color.html FCI group 2 – Pinschers, Schnauzers, Moloss type and Swiss Cattledogs Doberman http://www.dpca.org/color.chart.5.html http://www.geocities.com/~amazondoc/albinism/#albinoinheritance Giant Schnauzer http://www.schnauzerware.org/planet/colour-g.htm Miniature Schnauzer http://www.schnauzerware.org/planet/colour-m.htm http://www.mscc.ca/article.html http://www.katewerk.com/color.html Boxer http://hometown.aol.com/viladabxrs/boxercm.html http://www.erinet.com/ghost/colors.htm http://frontpage.lightspeed.net/bixl/color.htm Shar Pei http://www.shar-pei.com/Color.htm Great Dane http://www.greatdanerescueinc.com/DaneGenetics.html http://hometown.aol.com/greatdanerescue/colors.html http://home.flash.net/~dby/chlinx.htm#linkgdcolor English Mastiff http://www.mindspring.com/~molepharmer/mastiff/colorinh.htm FCI group 3 – Terriers American Rat Terrier http://www.nrta.com/newratstandards3.html FCI group 4 – Dachshunds http://www.doxieskennel.com/colors.html http://www.calabel.net/discussiondapple.htm http://www.dachsie.org/colors.html FCI group 5 – Spitz and primitive types Keeshond http://www.calweb.com/~jabber/art_001.htm http://www.calweb.com/~jabber/orange/art_orange.htm Siberian Husky http://mail.globalbiz.net/~siberian/genetic.html http://www.shca.org/shcahp5a.htm Akita http://www.hypercon.com/doginfo/dogsection/articles/spots1.html Finnish Lapphund http://www.hut.fi/u/lsarakon/koira/ FCI group 6 – Scent Hounds and related breeds Dalmatian http://www.geocities.com/~paisleydals/color.html http://www.shoal.net.au/~ndcdalmatian/cattanach.html Rhodesian Ridgeback http://www.adevnet.fr/dogmag/rhrilngb.htm FCI group 7 – Pointing Dogs Spinone http://www.spinone.com/genetics.htm FCI group 8 – Retrievers – Flushing Dogs – Water Dogs Labrador Retriever http://labbies.com/genetics.htm http://labbies.com/genetics2.htm Chesapeake Bay Retriever http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Farm/1276/colours.html American Cocker Spaniel http://www.cockerspanielinformation.com/ English Cocker Spaniel http://www.stirling-ecs.org/general/general_info.html FCI group 9 – Companions and Toys Poodle http://www.magma.ca/~kaitlin/poodle/pdlcolor.html Lhasa Apso http://www.lhasa-apso.org/health/coatcolr.htm Havanese http://www1.tip.nl/~t031186/color.html FCI group 10 – Sighthounds Afghan Hound http://www.hosanna1.com/Genetics/ Borzoi http://www.borzois.com/coat.color/coat.color.html Saluki http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~brown/dogs/genetics/color-genetics… Whippet http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/atl/d/d/ddoggone/Genetics/Genetics.htm Liisa
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> Anyways, if you have a picture of a dog whose color is a good example, please > feel free to send it to me as an email attachment, including in the mail body > the dog’s color, name, breed and age, and your name if you’d like. Also, if the > dog’s color or coat changes a lot during its life, pictures of the various > stages would be great. Example – dalmation.
To further add to the confusion… the same color can be known by different names in different breeds. Think of all the names for that reddish-tan…… buff, red, gold, dark cream, cinnamon, light apricot, etc. Of course a breed purist will recognize all the subtle differences, but not JQP! — Toni www.irish-wolfhounds.com Click the "Update on Steve"
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> To further add to the confusion… the same color can be known by different > names in different breeds. > Think of all the names for that reddish-tan…… buff, red, gold, dark > cream, cinnamon, light apricot, etc. > Of course a breed purist will recognize all the subtle differences, but not > JQP!
And not some people, quite a few men for example, have a difficult time with different shades and variances in color. And, I’m not saying that to be sexist, but it’s a fact that many more men have varying degree of colorblindness. (My DH, one of my brothers & my Dad…) It’s a tricky business! ’Course, then you’ve got the horse folks that bring in colors like "Roan", and "Bay" and such too…*grin* Shelly, Coda & Guiness…
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I wanted to clarify…Simon the dog pictured on my web page is Brindled..I know that..I adopted a New pup who I told was Merle I guess some people thought I was asking what Simon was….Sorry for the confusion….I was told my 7 week old female is Merle because she has a half brown and half blue eye http://community.webtv.net/KissyFooFoo/MeandSimon
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>I adopted a New pup who I told was Merle I guess >some people thought I was asking what Simon was….Sorry for the >confusion….I was told my 7 week old female is Merle because she has a >half brown and half blue eye
If she is white with black spots, as you described, she is not merle. However, merle dogs are not the only color that has the odd blue eye. In my breed, Aussies, which do come in merle, blue eyes are common. Less common, but occurring just the same are blue eyed blacks and black tris. I also know a Berner bitch that has a half blue eye and she is decidedly not a merle. Here is a url to the blue merle portion of Lisa MacDonald’s site on color inheritance of the Australian Shepherd. Different breed, but it will give you something to compare too. http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/3559/blue_merles.htm FWIW, Seth, my newest addition is a blue bi much like "Riot" provided by Mary Hawley. She has some lovely blue bis and bred Seth’s dam. Robin
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With the post on the merle pit bull, it got me to thinking about all the different colors & combos dogs come in. The definitions of different colors confused me a lot at first too, like the brindle/merle mixup, and still do with some, enough that I’d like to put up a page with as many colors and combos as possible. For example, tan, brown, chocolate, liver, gold, cream…if you’ve never seen one that was identified for you, some folks wouldn’t know there was a difference – they’re all brown. Anyways, if you have a picture of a dog whose color is a good example, please feel free to send it to me as an email attachment, including in the mail body the dog’s color, name, breed and age, and your name if you’d like. Also, if the dog’s color or coat changes a lot during its life, pictures of the various stages would be great. Example – dalmation. Coat and ear samples would also be appreciated. Paul C Purebred…mix…their tails still wag the same and they’ll still grab your lunch. Scratch an ear anyways.
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