Dog just pissed on my grill

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Hi, Smart dog!? Did not like the sound coming out of the amp. My dog squeals if she does not like the sound coming out of my amp, LOL. Don’t have wet-vac or steam cleaner(like Hoover) Tony – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > My new dog just pissed on the Peavey Classic 50 I found in the Buy and Sell > Is it safe to put the amp in a angle and run soap water down the cloth with > the hair washer over the sink before it dries or soaks in > -Jim

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> My new dog just pissed on the Peavey Classic 50 I found in the Buy and Sell > Is it safe to put the amp in a angle and run soap water down the cloth with > the hair washer over the sink before it dries or soaks in > -Jim

Helluva fine dog, I’d say. Trust his judgement. Skip the water, at least, the way you’re thinking about doing it. First, use the vacuum cleaner to suck all the pee out of the grille that will come out. Then, spray some cleaner – citrus-based stuff works well; if you don’t have any, 409, Fantastic, or anything similar (no Pine-Sol, please – that stuff smells worse than piss) will do. A *light* touch is called for – set the sprayhead for mist, not a stream. Mist the cloth, and blot it dry with paper towels. Use the vacuum cleaner again. Repeat as necessary. NOW – before you do any of the above, check to see if the grille cloth is removable. Many Peavey amps use a removable grille frame, and you can just snap it off and wash it AWAY from the amp. (It’s the SPEAKER underneath the cloth that you need to be careful about.) Lord Valve Owner of Hound Pack BTW – for those amplifier afficionados who are contemplating the purchase of a canine – get a female. Females guard your turf best, and, if you’re a poor dog trainer, at least they can’t piss on anything besides the floor. ;-)

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>My new dog just pissed on the Peavey Classic 50 I found in the Buy and Sell

He’s a critic. >Is it safe to put the amp in a angle and run soap water down the cloth with >the hair washer over the sink before it dries or soaks in >-Jim

I’ve never looked at a Classic 50 any closer than walking past it. If they’re assembled pretty much like a Tweed, I’d remove the speakers, then I’d remove the baffle & grill, and clean it separated from the amp. There’ve been plenty of threads about cleaning grill cloth in the past, but I’ve never done it myself. But you could try a Deja/Google search at: http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_ugroup=alt.guitar.amps click on the "Search only in alt.guitar.amps" at the top there, and do a couple searches like: Cleaning Grill Cloth. Or: Grill Cloth Cigarette Smell Stuff like that. Pete — That was good. What else is on –Space Ghost

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My new dog just pissed on the Peavey Classic 50 I found in the Buy and Sell > Is it safe to put the amp in a angle and run soap water down the cloth with > the hair washer over the sink before it dries or soaks in > -Jim > Helluva fine dog, I’d say. Trust his judgement. > Skip the water, at least, the way you’re thinking > about doing it. First, use the vacuum cleaner to > suck all the pee out of the grille that will come > out. Then, spray some cleaner – citrus-based > stuff works well; if you don’t have any, 409, > Fantastic, or anything similar (no Pine-Sol, > please – that stuff smells worse than piss) will > do. A *light* touch is called for – set the sprayhead > for mist, not a stream. Mist the cloth, and blot it > dry with paper towels. Use the vacuum cleaner again. > Repeat as necessary. > NOW – before you do any of the above, check to > see if the grille cloth is removable. Many Peavey > amps use a removable grille frame, and you can > just snap it off and wash it AWAY from the amp. > (It’s the SPEAKER underneath the cloth that > you need to be careful about.) > Lord Valve > Owner of Hound Pack > BTW – for those amplifier afficionados who are > contemplating the purchase of a canine – get > a female. Females guard your turf best, and, > if you’re a poor dog trainer, at least they can’t > piss on anything besides the floor. ;-)

Further info – do NOT yell at your pooch for peeing on anything UNLESS YOU CATCH HIM WHILE HE’S ACTUALLY PEEING. Dogs don’t connect prior actions with current punishment. Don’t rub his nose in it, either – you can point him at it and make him smell it, but that’s it. And don’t, under any circumstances, try to train him with newspapers. (Time Magazine is much better for this, if you *have* to do it the wrong way.) Think about what you’re doing – "paper training" just tells the pooch that it’s OK to piss in the house. No papers, outside EVERY time. Keep a *tight* eyeball on the hound – all of ‘em have different "I need to pee" behavior – some will whine, some will scratch the door (once they know that they’re supposed to pee outside), some will snoot the doorknob, some will come and stare at you, etc. Remember, if your dog pisses in the house, it’s *your* fault. And if you hit him, make sure to walk down to the corner and shout a racial insult at the biggest black man you can find. You *need* to get the shit kicked out of you. Hitting a dog is insane. There are no bad dogs – just bad trainers. Lord Valve Houndsman

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Confirming LV’s advise; Fine mist; wet vac. No wet vac? Blot with paper towels. I’ve done it. It works. However, while I like bitch dogs just fine, and don’t understand why some guys think owning a male is more macho, I can say that females CAN piss elsewhere than straight down. My neighbors rotweiler bitch hikes her leg to pee, and can squirt a couple of feet. (Pretty damn funny too!) B.B. King the good girl dog: http://home.swbell.net/j_h_king/bbjpg.jpg (B.B. stands for Bad Bitch) 1988-1997 RIP John King

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > My new dog just pissed on the Peavey Classic 50 I found in the Buy and Sell > > Is it safe to put the amp in a angle and run soap water down the cloth with > > the hair washer over the sink before it dries or soaks in > > -Jim > Helluva fine dog, I’d say. Trust his judgement. > Skip the water, at least, the way you’re thinking > about doing it. First, use the vacuum cleaner to > suck all the pee out of the grille that will come > out. Then, spray some cleaner – citrus-based > stuff works well; if you don’t have any, 409, > Fantastic, or anything similar (no Pine-Sol, > please – that stuff smells worse than piss) will > do. A *light* touch is called for – set the sprayhead > for mist, not a stream. Mist the cloth, and blot it > dry with paper towels. Use the vacuum cleaner again. > Repeat as necessary. > NOW – before you do any of the above, check to > see if the grille cloth is removable. Many Peavey > amps use a removable grille frame, and you can > just snap it off and wash it AWAY from the amp. > (It’s the SPEAKER underneath the cloth that > you need to be careful about.) > Lord Valve > Owner of Hound Pack > BTW – for those amplifier afficionados who are > contemplating the purchase of a canine – get > a female. Females guard your turf best, and, > if you’re a poor dog trainer, at least they can’t > piss on anything besides the floor. ;-) >Confirming LV’s advise; Fine mist; wet vac. No wet vac? >Blot with paper towels. I’ve done it. It works. >However, while I like bitch dogs just fine, and don’t >understand why some guys think owning a male is more macho, >I can say that females CAN piss elsewhere than straight down. >My neighbors rotweiler bitch hikes her leg to pee, and can >squirt a couple of feet. (Pretty damn funny too!) >B.B. King the good girl dog: >http://home.swbell.net/j_h_king/bbjpg.jpg >(B.B. stands for Bad Bitch) 1988-1997 RIP >John King

Cool dog. I’d like to get another work dog next time. German Shepherds are some of the smartest dogs out there IMO. fwiw, my neighbor’s male Australian Cattle Dog still isn’t lifting his leg to pee yet. He’s about six months old now. Funniest thing too, because it looks like he might be ready to figure it out, because yesterday, he pissed, and then dragged his belly in the grass to wipe himself. So he’s squirting himself, which is pretty much why male dogs learn to lift their leg to pee. Pete — That was good. What else is on –Space Ghost

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> Hi, > Smart dog!? Did not like the sound coming out of the amp. > My dog squeals if she does not like the sound coming out of > my amp, LOL. Don’t have wet-vac or steam cleaner(like Hoover) > Tony

Either he didn’t like the sound, or more likely, he’s claiming the amp as his own! He’s trying to see if the owner likes it as much as he does. The only long term solution is for THE OWNER to piss on the amp in retaliation. But make sure your pee is stronger than his. Eat some asparagus about an hour before "reclaiming" your amp. –Mike Mike Schway | [Picture your favorite quote here]

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A few years back, I bought a Gibson GA-35RVT. Near mint, except for the filth. I removed the baffle and proceeded to clean it, but I got it too wet, and the black paint on the baffle bled onto the grill cloth. It looked like I spray painted the edges black. Figuring I had nothing to lose at that point, here’s what I did: 1. Make note of cloth’s orientation on the baffle board. 2. Use a butter knife to carefully remove all the staples from the cloth. 3. Remove cloth from baffle. 4. Soak cloth in bath tub w/soapy water for a coupl’a hours (Note: This step is best performed while the wife is away). 5. Lightly scrub cloth with a *SOFT*-bristled brush. 6. Allow to dry thoroughly. 7. Re-attach cloth to board. I found that the staple holes were still clearly defined in the cloth and was able to put the staples back in exactly as they came out – no new staple holes in cloth or baffle. and no leftover staples. It sounds tedious, but aside from the soaking/cleaning/drying, the staple thing only took about an hour, and the end result was a dead-mint grill cloth. Good Luck, and be nice to the dog. Jerry

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > Smart dog!? Did not like the sound coming out of the amp. > My dog squeals if she does not like the sound coming out of > my amp, LOL. Don’t have wet-vac or steam cleaner(like Hoover) > Tony > Either he didn’t like the sound, or more likely, he’s claiming the amp > as his own! He’s trying to see if the owner likes it as much as he > does. The only long term solution is for THE OWNER to piss on the amp > in retaliation. But make sure your pee is stronger than his. Eat some > asparagus about an hour before "reclaiming" your amp. > –Mike

OR, it’s been peed on before. Dogs will always cover another dog’s marking.

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There are products designed for cleaning up dog accidents. One is called "Nature’s Miracle." You can buy them at pet supply stores. They contain enzymes that stay behind and "eat up" any remaining mess. Hopefully, it didn’t reach the speaker cones. Hopefully you blotted as much up as possible with paper towels before it dried. I’d be looking at how easy it is to pull the drivers. If there’s dried pee on them, good luck! I suppose you could try to spray the cones with the Nature’s Miracle, but this may cause them to swell. I’d disassemble as much as reasonably possible and use Nature’s Miracle in a spray bottle. The bad news is that it could require several cleanings over a period of days, if it dried on. The Nature’s Miracle DOES work, and it will remove the smell. IF YOU DON’T REMOVE THE SMELL, IT IS LIKELY THAT YOUR DOG WILL DO IT AGAIN! I’m also guessing that the dog is not neutered. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > My new dog just pissed on the Peavey Classic 50 I found in the Buy and Sell > Is it safe to put the amp in a angle and run soap water down the cloth with > the hair washer over the sink before it dries or soaks in > -Jim

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Too much laughter here to cry. Looks like ya have good answers here. I’d take the amp apart. At least it’s not cat piss, or cat scratch fever. I had to go through a Champ that had been puked in at a biker party, the speaker survived. Tony copped an attitude amazing! Chris – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > My new dog just pissed on the Peavey Classic 50 I found in the Buy and Sell > Is it safe to put the amp in a angle and run soap water down the cloth with > the hair washer over the sink before it dries or soaks in > -Jim

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> I had to go > through a Champ that had been puked in at a biker party, the speaker > survived.

Hope you got paid extra for that one! I usually impose a "nuisance surcharge for puke, piss (most species), rodent turds and Polytones. There are some enzymatic solutions which will work …sort of… on cat piss. But like the old song meant to say: "The cat (piss) came back, the very next day." Mike Schway | [Picture your favorite quote here]

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<snip> > However, while I like bitch dogs just fine, and don’t > understand why some guys think owning a male is more macho, > I can say that females CAN piss elsewhere than straight down. > My neighbors rotweiler bitch hikes her leg to pee, and can > squirt a couple of feet. (Pretty damn funny too!)

Learned behavior (my layman’s canine psyc opinion.) As a little kid, my parents got me a toy poodle (because they didn’t want what I wanted, a dog bigger than as me!); our back yard next to a neighbor’s redbone hound kennel next door, couple o’ months and the little dog bayed identically *with real volume*. In later years, my little dog ‘Candy’ would often rip loose just for fun, the neighbors would pop out to see what was goin’ on with their hounds… Later had a german shepard pup ‘raised’ by a huge cat I already had, and that dog ended up cleaning itself like a cat; now that was funny! (and somewhat disturbing…) My dog before present company (female half lab/half weimaraner) had it’s first 12 months with brothers and mother before I came along and adopted it: it lifted and could pee a good 4 foot stream (outside only, thankfully! and usually triggered when seeing another dog, like, ‘Look! I can do that too!) I keep my recent mongrel hound (turned one year the 24th) next to me while fixin’ Mackie 1400’s, I’m hoping… -Robert

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Dog meat makes really good tacos. Put lots of hot salsa on ‘em. Yummmmm!

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> BTW – for those amplifier afficionados who are > contemplating the purchase of a canine – get > a female. Females guard your turf best, and, > if you’re a poor dog trainer, at least they can’t > piss on anything besides the floor. ;-)

And in my breed (Irish Wolfhounds) the bitch seems to be exponentially smarter than the males, too. But, we always keep a male around, just for the fun of it. — Ken Empson Peculiar Sound Studio http://www.cdinc.net/~eriador www.cdstreet.com/artists/peculiarsoundstudio

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Be glad it wasn’t a cat. Only a serious fire or an extended deep-sea dive will get rid of that smell. I’ve spent hours cleaning customer gear, but the moment it warms up the cas piss stench returns. Empirical engr.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My new dog just pissed on the Peavey Classic 50 I found in the Buy and Sell > Is it safe to put the amp in a angle and run soap water down the cloth with > the hair washer over the sink before it dries or soaks in > -Jim

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In this particular case, the puke was an obstacle for me, doubt they would notice much. Made out ok. Chris – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had to go > through a Champ that had been puked in at a biker party, the speaker > survived. > Hope you got paid extra for that one! I usually impose a "nuisance > surcharge for puke, piss (most species), rodent turds and Polytones. > There are some enzymatic solutions which will work …sort of… on cat > piss. But like the old song meant to say: "The cat (piss) came back, > the very next day." > Mike Schway | [Picture your favorite quote here]

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Be glad it wasn’t a cat. Only a serious fire or an extended deep-sea dive > will get rid of that smell. I’ve spent hours cleaning customer gear, but the > moment it warms up the cas piss stench returns. > Empirical engr. > My new dog just pissed on the Peavey Classic 50 I found in the Buy and > Sell > Is it safe to put the amp in a angle and run soap water down the cloth > with > the hair washer over the sink before it dries or soaks in > -Jim

About the only thing I’ve found that works god on cat piss smell is a strong chlorine bleach solution, and of course it will ruin lots of stuff, so you can’t use it on everything. John King

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My new dog just pissed on the Peavey Classic 50 I found in the Buy and Sell Is it safe to put the amp in a angle and run soap water down the cloth with the hair washer over the sink before it dries or soaks in -Jim >> Well I’d always heard that dogs have really good hearing, and I guess this just proves it! I guess that makes your amp a "PEEVEY", doesn’t it? ;-) Thanks for the laugh, and regards to the pooch. Dave

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>> I had to go > through a Champ that had been puked in at a biker party, the speaker > survived. >Hope you got paid extra for that one! I usually impose a "nuisance >surcharge for puke, piss (most species), rodent turds and Polytones.

Don’t forget roach units. I hate them, the smell, the cleaning legs and body parts out of pots. Bleechhhhh! Polytone says they have a fix for that damn IC that keeps blowing – I’m going to try it on the one I’ve got here for repair. Ron

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> Polytone says they have a fix for that damn IC that keeps blowing – I’m going > to > try it on the one I’ve got here for repair.

Don’t forget to don your haz-mat suit! Damn, I HATE fiberglass in compact enclosures! Mike Schway | [Picture your favorite quote here]

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Do what Lord Valve and Mike Schway say to do. Do all of it. The Nature’s Miralce or similar product is essential or the dog will do it again in the same place. Dogs can smell dog pee residue that you can’t smell. The enzyme cleaner makes it so the dog can’t smell anything. See if you can separte the baffle from the speaker an do this in the laundry tub or bath tub. And get a female dachshund. Even when mine lifts a leg, it still goes straight down. Must be the short legs. LOL Phil

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> And get a female dachshund. Even when mine lifts a leg, it still goes > straight down. Must be the short legs. > LOL > Phil

You reminded me of a bizarre but hilarious dream I had the other night (well, I thought it was hilarious). I dreamed I got a HUGE dachshund. Like 80 pounds 2 1/2 feet tall and about 5 feet long! He was a great dog, but a bit of a goober. I took him for a walk and it seemed like everyone knew him, and the women loved him LOL! I woke up chuckling. Later I thought "Freud would have had a hay day with this one!" John King Sometimes a big wiener dog is just a big wiener dog ;=].

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> Do what Lord Valve and Mike Schway say to do. Do all of it. The Nature’s > Miralce or similar product is essential or the dog will do it again in the > same place. Dogs can smell dog pee residue that you can’t smell. The > enzyme cleaner makes it so the dog can’t smell anything. See if you can > separte the baffle from the speaker an do this in the laundry tub or bath > tub. > And get a female dachshund. Even when mine lifts a leg, it still goes > straight down. Must be the short legs. > LOL > Phil

Dachshunds are noble hounds. They don’t know they’re little, so they kick ass anyway. And after all, they were bred to go down a badger hole and kill the badger. And badgers are some *mean* sumbitches! Lord Valve Houndsman

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