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I love pedigrees too <G>.  I have most of Louie’s traced back to the original seven shih tzu imported out of China.  I have close to 3,000 pedigrees in my ped program.  It borders on obsession with me <G> — Susan Shih Tzu Delites http://www.angelfire.com/ga/shihtzudelites/ Topknots & Tails Petgrooming "Dogs aren’t our whole life, they make our lives whole"…Roger Caras

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>I’m better some days then other’s! >But thank you….. >And no I don’t mind,  My first language is German…

Aha.  This explains the random capitalization :-) . >and then theres >stuff like…hmmm, Ain’t? I think.Whats that?? I see nothing >wrong with ‘is not’…and the ‘a’ part comes in where.?.

Ah — I can help you with that.  Ain’t is a contraction of "am not". "amn’t" then dropped the m, as an m-n combo isn’t easily said in English.  And then from there it morphed out to other pronouns, so you’ll find sentences like "he ain’t going to school", even though you’d never say "he am not going to school". >Things like that are not even in my lil ‘helper’ book.-Laughing-. >It truly is a fun  language….

"Ain’t" is colloquial, and it is not generally considered "proper" English.  It’s more often used in spoken English than written English. Cheers, –Cindy —

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>Hey I think your english is good. When taking french my teacher assured all >of us that since we could speak in english that we could easily learn >another language due to the fact that english is the hardest language of >them all. (I beg to differ because i failed french) :-)

:-) Your teacher was wrong.  The first language is always the easiest. How easily you learn the next language depends on your age at the time you learn it, how many other languages you already know, and some amount of native talent. There’s some pretty amazing languages out there.  I’m looking at Basque right now, and the literal translation for the sentence "I am spinning" comes out something like "For an example (or action) of spinning, you have me."  =:-O I bet if dogs had a language, all the verbs would make use of scenting and all nouns would be related to odors… –CIndy —

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Hey I think your english is good. When taking french my teacher assured all of us that since we could speak in english that we could easily learn another language due to the fact that english is the hardest language of them all. (I beg to differ because i failed french) :-) Dawn

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m better some days then other’s! > But thank you….. > And no I don’t mind,  My first language is German… > Engliah is 4th…. > (So far I find it to by NO means be the easy one!) > As everyone said it would be.!. I could give 10 people > the same story and most of them wouldn’t say it the same. > Little things get me lost like(you’re) at first I would see’your’ > or you’r and not have a clue what they said… and then theres > stuff like…hmmm, Ain’t? I think.Whats that?? I see nothing > wrong with ‘is not’…and the ‘a’ part comes in where.?. > Things like that are not even in my lil ‘helper’ book.-Laughing-. > It truly is a fun  language…. > "Technically, it should also be "if English *were* my first language" > This is very nice to know.. Thank you. > Better go, Tauttara (Puppy) is trying to eat my foot.!. > Kind Regards, > Em and Kids > >Not a problem… : ) > >No sorries please, I just wanted to let you know that > >I am working on it… And given time I think I can be > >good at it…. I can see how, If English was my first language > >its would seem that I REALLY needed some work.!. > Actually, it’s pretty darned good.  The only mistakes I see above are > capitalizing If (in If English), and using its (in its would seem) > where it should have been just it. > Technically, it should also be "if English *were* my first language", > + but the subjunctive is something that’s really not well used or > even understood by English speakers, and plenty of native speakers > would use "was" as well. > If you don’t mind, I’d be curious to know what your first language > was. > Cheers, > –Cindy > —

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> Too bad you’re not a Golden person: http://www.k9data.com

Catahoula people can go here if interested: http://www.catahoulaleopard.com/pedigreesub.htm -Amanda

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I’m better some days then other’s! But thank you….. And no I don’t mind,  My first language is German… Engliah is 4th…. (So far I find it to by NO means be the easy one!) As everyone said it would be.!. I could give 10 people the same story and most of them wouldn’t say it the same. Little things get me lost like(you’re) at first I would see’your’ or you’r and not have a clue what they said… and then theres stuff like…hmmm, Ain’t? I think.Whats that?? I see nothing wrong with ‘is not’…and the ‘a’ part comes in where.?. Things like that are not even in my lil ‘helper’ book.-Laughing-. It truly is a fun  language…. "Technically, it should also be "if English *were* my first language" This is very nice to know.. Thank you. Better go, Tauttara (Puppy) is trying to eat my foot.!. Kind Regards, Em and Kids

>Not a problem… : ) >No sorries please, I just wanted to let you know that >I am working on it… And given time I think I can be >good at it…. I can see how, If English was my first language >its would seem that I REALLY needed some work.!. > Actually, it’s pretty darned good.  The only mistakes I see above are > capitalizing If (in If English), and using its (in its would seem) > where it should have been just it. > Technically, it should also be "if English *were* my first language",

+ but the subjunctive is something that’s really not well used or > even understood by English speakers, and plenty of native speakers > would use "was" as well. > If you don’t mind, I’d be curious to know what your first language > was. > Cheers, > –Cindy > —

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>I have been a pedigree hound all my life. For my dogs and my own >family. I am now back 12 generations in my Mother’s family and 8 in my >Father’s. And yes it has even proven where some of my traits and >especially likes and passions arise.

Too bad you’re not a Golden person: http://www.k9data.com Ann, Twzl, Sligo and Roy — Whenever A annoys or injures B on the pretense of saving or improving X, A is a scoundrel. – H. L. Mencken

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>wow thats very interesting. >how can i trace my dogs pedigree furthur without paying the akc 10$ a pop?

If you are truly interested in your breed of choice, pedigree knowledge is a must – quite apart from the fact that it is a very exciting pursuit. It is also the only real way you will know what might lie hidden in your dog – good and bad. I have been a pedigree hound all my life. For my dogs and my own family. I am now back 12 generations in my Mother’s family and 8 in my Father’s. And yes it has even proven where some of my traits and especially likes and passions arise. So to dogs. Searching out pedigrees is no quick task. You should first find all the books, old and new, on your breed that you can. Subscribe to magazines of your breed.  Take notes as you find names since you won’t remember where they are again. Start witht he pedigree your breeder gave you and look for the names of Champions as far back as possible since they are the easiest to trace because of their fame. Dogs which appear more than once and many will, will be even easier to find because many obviously thought them excellent examples of their breed. If you can purchase old copies of your breed magazines, do so. Often articles containing pedigree can be found in there. If a kennel name of a champion shows you that indeed that person is still breeding, a friendly call might produce information about a certain dog. Ask breeders at dog shows. Ask old timers. Write letters. Look up names on the net. At one time I had 60 pedigrees on different old Harlequin Great Danes and could write many of them from memory. In fact just the other day I wrote a quick letter to someone on the internet who has a mistake in the posted pedigree of an old dog on his site. Many confuse old German names and in the early days many dogs were named Ajax 1, Ajax 11, Ajax 111 etc. not even all of the same breeding, which adds to the problem of research when others leave off the numbers when writing. Its not easy but it’s terrific fun. If you have a 4 or 5 generation pedigree you already have a good start. Good luck Liz

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>i just received my dogs 5 generation pedigree from the akc and i see the >same dogs on there more than once. >is this normal?it seems strange to me.

It’s normal – it’s called ‘linebreeding’ and is one of the techniques breeders use fix specific characteristics in their line. The art is in doing it in such a way as to select the good characteristics and avoid the bad ones. Here’s my Tamsin’s five-generation pedigree: http://www.bloodaxe.demon.co.uk/tamsin.html It’s fairly typical for a UK bred show greyhound. (In the UK, for a good quality dog in most breeds you should expect half or more of the dogs in the pedigree to be champions. In the US, most if not all the dogs should be champions because of the different way the championships are earned there.) You’ll see that several of the dogs repeat. If I were breeding her (which I’m not, she’s now spayed), knowing what I do about her pedigree and the qualities of the different dogs in it, I would probably be looking for a dog from the White Christmas (her grandfather) lines for her. – ANDREA —   Get PAID for the emails you already send and receive!                   ANDROMEDA – Internet Goddess Bloodaxe’s History Links:   http://www.geocities.com/Athens/5055/ The Loony Bin Archive:               http://loonies.net800.co.uk/

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> Good information, but you need to learn how to type!

    Well, after jumping on ‘m’ for their typing skills, (along with jumping to conclusions that English is their native language), I see you seem to be the pot calling the kettle black, here, Nathan. Tsk tsk tsk. <G> (Don’t take this as an insult, only as an observation. <G>)     Now, of course, perhaps, English is not your native language, either, in which case you’d *really* do well to not judge others. :) ))     From another post of yours, I will add in caps, in [ ]’s, all of your typing errors: I can’t show him in Contormational [CONFORMATION] class, I am having him neutered. She had several puppys [PUPPIES], and she did not say he was NOT show quality. She just had one better that she wanted to keep. It was the last breed [should be 'litter', not 'breed', but not a 'spelling' error, per se] with this perticular [PARTICULAR] Sire [SIRE doesn't need to be in caps]. This one puppy looked like him almost to the T and was show quality. She said she could easily show him, but she only was goin gto [GOING TO] keep one puppy. I have had him looked over by other cocker show breeders and they said he is "DEFINATELY" [DEFINITELY] show qualty [QUALITY].. (Quoted) My questions were not wether [WHETHER] he was show quality, I just wanted to know if I can show him in obedience and agility, and it sounds like I can.     <snip>     Be careful how you judge others….. <G>     (It always comes back to bite your butt. It has bitten me, also. <G>) Ever helpful, MaryBeth

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> wow thats very interesting. > how can i trace my dogs pedigree furthur without paying the akc 10$ a

pop? try asking the breeder.  If she can’t help, look up the owners of the dogs back in the pedigree.  Ask the breed clubs and those knowledgable of the breed.  They should be able to help. -Amanda

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wow thats very interesting. how can i trace my dogs pedigree furthur without paying the akc 10$ a pop?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->i just received my dogs 5 generation pedigree from the akc and i see the >same dogs on there more than once. >is this normal?it seems strange to me. >thanks,Jeff > Jeff > Just some  info I thought you and others might find  interesting  - > and surprising. > Laura Kiaulenas – a Harlequin Great Dane fancier, sadly no longer with > us, took the pedigree of just one of her well known dogs and traced > the following:- > Ch. BMW Leprechaun…. > In the first 8 generations of the pedigree there were 10 crosses to > Jagla  vd Stadt Hamburg and his brother Marko vd Kreuzxchanze. > 19 crosses to Ch.Herold and Hannibal v St.Magn Obertraubling. > 28 crosses to Ch.IW Harper vd Stadt Hamburg. > 81 crosses to Kalandus v st.Magn Obertraubling. > Going back 16 generations she found… > 2127 crosses to Jagla Moguntia > One of her other dogs had 2707 crosses to Jagla. > Her most recent linebred dogs easily topped the 7-10,000 crosses to > these dogs. > Interesting eh? > Liz

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>Not a problem… : ) >No sorries please, I just wanted to let you know that >I am working on it… And given time I think I can be >good at it…. I can see how, If English was my first language >its would seem that I REALLY needed some work.!.

Actually, it’s pretty darned good.  The only mistakes I see above are capitalizing If (in If English), and using its (in its would seem) where it should have been just it. Technically, it should also be "if English *were* my first language", but the subjunctive is something that’s really not well used or even understood by English speakers, and plenty of native speakers would use "was" as well. If you don’t mind, I’d be curious to know what your first language was. Cheers, –Cindy —

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Not a problem… : ) No sorries please, I just wanted to let you know that I am working on it… And given time I think I can be good at it…. I can see how, If English was my first language its would seem that I REALLY needed some work.!. Kind Regards, Em and Kids. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sorry! >  I didn’t realize that English may not be your first language. I forget about > that at times. I am a terrible typer myself, but English was your first language > it would be terrible typing…if its not….Great Job….and I am very sorry!! > Nathan > Please by all means feel free to jump in and ‘fix’ my typing.. > If you have a big problem with it, But to let you know i’m working on it. > I’m VERY new to Engliah and have only been writing it for under a year.. > and as you can’t see, I’m not very good at it yet .But hoping to get better. > and if I looked all of it over in my little ‘book’ it would take forever. > Aside from even spelling, English is not ’said’(I know there is a better > word for it) > the way i’m use to talking/writing….. > Kind Regards. > > Good information, but you need to learn how to type! > > > "I see the same dogS on there more then once" > > > How miny dogs, times also how miny generations back? > > > ANd are the same dogs in the Sir and the Dams Ped? > > > Line breeding takes alot of  work be be sure its done RIGHT… > > > and alot of times its not and then its called inbreeding… very unsafe. > > > When I was looking into my breeder.. Her (at the time) next litter was > ‘line > > > bred’ > > > She told me up front… I, at the time didn’t know what to look for, so > I > > > waited > > > now I would have no problem with it…If done right theres nothing wrong > > > with it. > > > Did your breeder not tell you your dogs was line bred, (Or maybe > Inbred)? > > > You my want to give your breeder a call….. > > > > > i just received my dogs 5 generation pedigree from the akc and i see > > > > the > > > > > same dogs on there more than once. > > > > > is this normal?it seems strange to me. > > > > > thanks,Jeff > > > > Unless both the top and the bottom are the same it’s perfectly normal. > > > > I’ve got a pup promised me in a couple of years from a dog bred back > to > > > > her grandfather (#1 competition treeing Catahoula of all time). It’s > > > > called line breeding and is fairly normal.  It’s used to cement the > > > > traits in a certain breed or line of a breed.  As long as it’s not > done > > > > too closely or too much it’s perfectly okay to do and I wouldn’t worry > > > > about it at all.  :) > > > > -Amanda

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>i just received my dogs 5 generation pedigree from the akc and i see the >same dogs on there more than once. >is this normal?it seems strange to me. >thanks,Jeff

Jeff Just some  info I thought you and others might find  interesting  - and surprising. Laura Kiaulenas – a Harlequin Great Dane fancier, sadly no longer with us, took the pedigree of just one of her well known dogs and traced the following:- Ch. BMW Leprechaun…. In the first 8 generations of the pedigree there were 10 crosses to Jagla  vd Stadt Hamburg and his brother Marko vd Kreuzxchanze. 19 crosses to Ch.Herold and Hannibal v St.Magn Obertraubling. 28 crosses to Ch.IW Harper vd Stadt Hamburg. 81 crosses to Kalandus v st.Magn Obertraubling. Going back 16 generations she found… 2127 crosses to Jagla Moguntia One of her other dogs had 2707 crosses to Jagla. Her most recent linebred dogs easily topped the 7-10,000 crosses to these dogs. Interesting eh? Liz

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The dog I am hoping to use as a stud shares a relative with my girl.  The Stud’s father is my girl’s great grandfather.  The hope of this breeding is to solidify the traits of Captain, now deceased.  There is nothing wrong with a line breeding.  As a matter of fact many of the top show kennels in the world line breed. Kerri – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > i just received my dogs 5 generation pedigree from the akc and i see the > same dogs on there more than once. > is this normal?it seems strange to me. > thanks,Jeff

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Sorry!  I didn’t realize that English may not be your first language. I forget about that at times. I am a terrible typer myself, but English was your first language it would be terrible typing…if its not….Great Job….and I am very sorry!! Nathan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Please by all means feel free to jump in and ‘fix’ my typing.. > If you have a big problem with it, But to let you know i’m working on it. > I’m VERY new to Engliah and have only been writing it for under a year.. > and as you can’t see, I’m not very good at it yet .But hoping to get better. > and if I looked all of it over in my little ‘book’ it would take forever. > Aside from even spelling, English is not ’said’(I know there is a better > word for it) > the way i’m use to talking/writing….. > Kind Regards. > Good information, but you need to learn how to type! > > "I see the same dogS on there more then once" > > How miny dogs, times also how miny generations back? > > ANd are the same dogs in the Sir and the Dams Ped? > > Line breeding takes alot of  work be be sure its done RIGHT… > > and alot of times its not and then its called inbreeding… very unsafe. > > When I was looking into my breeder.. Her (at the time) next litter was > ‘line > > bred’ > > She told me up front… I, at the time didn’t know what to look for, so > I > > waited > > now I would have no problem with it…If done right theres nothing wrong > > with it. > > Did your breeder not tell you your dogs was line bred, (Or maybe > Inbred)? > > You my want to give your breeder a call….. > > > > i just received my dogs 5 generation pedigree from the akc and i see > > > the > > > > same dogs on there more than once. > > > > is this normal?it seems strange to me. > > > > thanks,Jeff > > > Unless both the top and the bottom are the same it’s perfectly normal. > > > I’ve got a pup promised me in a couple of years from a dog bred back > to > > > her grandfather (#1 competition treeing Catahoula of all time).  It’s > > > called line breeding and is fairly normal.  It’s used to cement the > > > traits in a certain breed or line of a breed.  As long as it’s not > done > > > too closely or too much it’s perfectly okay to do and I wouldn’t worry > > > about it at all.  :) > > > -Amanda

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Please by all means feel free to jump in and ‘fix’ my typing.. If you have a big problem with it, But to let you know i’m working on it. I’m VERY new to Engliah and have only been writing it for under a year.. and as you can’t see, I’m not very good at it yet .But hoping to get better. and if I looked all of it over in my little ‘book’ it would take forever. Aside from even spelling, English is not ’said’(I know there is a better word for it) the way i’m use to talking/writing….. Kind Regards. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Good information, but you need to learn how to type! > "I see the same dogS on there more then once" > How miny dogs, times also how miny generations back? > ANd are the same dogs in the Sir and the Dams Ped? > Line breeding takes alot of  work be be sure its done RIGHT… > and alot of times its not and then its called inbreeding… very unsafe. > When I was looking into my breeder.. Her (at the time) next litter was ‘line > bred’ > She told me up front… I, at the time didn’t know what to look for, so I > waited > now I would have no problem with it…If done right theres nothing wrong > with it. > Did your breeder not tell you your dogs was line bred, (Or maybe Inbred)? > You my want to give your breeder a call….. > > > i just received my dogs 5 generation pedigree from the akc and i see > > the > > > same dogs on there more than once. > > > is this normal?it seems strange to me. > > > thanks,Jeff > > Unless both the top and the bottom are the same it’s perfectly normal. > > I’ve got a pup promised me in a couple of years from a dog bred back to > > her grandfather (#1 competition treeing Catahoula of all time).  It’s > > called line breeding and is fairly normal.  It’s used to cement the > > traits in a certain breed or line of a breed.  As long as it’s not done > > too closely or too much it’s perfectly okay to do and I wouldn’t worry > > about it at all.  :) > > -Amanda

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> She told me up front… I, at the time didn’t know what to look for, so I > waited > now I would have no problem with it…If done right theres nothing wrong > with it.

The breeder I’m talking to about the new pup is very helpful.  I told him I couldn’t take a pup for at least two years and he was fine with that.  He’s been breeding some of the top Catahoulas for better than 30 years and hasn’t had any problems yet, just wanted to cement the ‘Snickers’ line.  My pup will be 62.5% Snickers and I’m really excited about that.  :)  He’s a triple champion (Hogs, Conformation and Treeing) the first ACA Triple Champion.  many of his pups are single or dual champions as well.  Good hips, eyes and ears.  To top it all off he’s red… my favorite color (I know, I know, working first, but if they can do what you want them to, why not have one who’s easy on your eyes?  For me it’s icing on the cake).  Only thing better would be a bobtail, but almost all the bobtails are closely related right now so I need an outcross.  Another of his dogs is getting crossed to a close relative of my Beau so this kennel will have the bobtail gene in it, but the one I’m getting will be unrelated to my Beau.

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just two and it was four generations back, thanks for the help and info its very interesting.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "I see the same dogS on there more then once" > How miny dogs, times also how miny generations back? > ANd are the same dogs in the Sir and the Dams Ped? > Line breeding takes alot of  work be be sure its done RIGHT… > and alot of times its not and then its called inbreeding… very unsafe. > When I was looking into my breeder.. Her (at the time) next litter was ‘line > bred’ > She told me up front… I, at the time didn’t know what to look for, so I > waited > now I would have no problem with it…If done right theres nothing wrong > with it. > Did your breeder not tell you your dogs was line bred, (Or maybe Inbred)? > You my want to give your breeder a call….. > > i just received my dogs 5 generation pedigree from the akc and i see > the > > same dogs on there more than once. > > is this normal?it seems strange to me. > > thanks,Jeff > Unless both the top and the bottom are the same it’s perfectly normal. > I’ve got a pup promised me in a couple of years from a dog bred back to > her grandfather (#1 competition treeing Catahoula of all time).  It’s > called line breeding and is fairly normal.  It’s used to cement the > traits in a certain breed or line of a breed.  As long as it’s not done > too closely or too much it’s perfectly okay to do and I wouldn’t worry > about it at all.  :) > -Amanda

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>i just received my dogs 5 generation pedigree from the akc and i see the >same dogs on there more than once. >is this normal?it seems strange to me. >thanks,Jeff

Not strange Jeff. However it’s all according who those dogs are and "how" they appear. If they are known dogs – finished champions, dogs of quality, and someone has for example bred their bitch who has this champion as a grandparent, to another quality dog with the same champion as a grandparent or ggparent or maybe even further back, then this is called "line breding" It’s the type of breeding most commonly done by those trying to fix a "look" in their line and because they particularly like a certain dog. It might be interesting for some to know that if you go back many, many – like 15 generations, you can often find the same dogs back there appearing thousands of times. Someone has done that with Harle Danes a while back and it was quite astounding to see. Anyway, if you breed a Father to daughter then that’s called inbreeding. Not for those who are not completely knowledgeable as to the dogs and the line. Will bring out some hidden problems you might not know you had and also again, fix a "look". Outcrossing is breeding two dogs who have no relatives in common in the first 6 generations or more. This produces puppies which are basicly and unknown quantity. You will have no fixed type so most breeders do not usually do this as a rule. You cannot rely on the quality to expect etc. Hope that helps. Liz

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Good information, but you need to learn how to type! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > "I see the same dogS on there more then once" > How miny dogs, times also how miny generations back? > ANd are the same dogs in the Sir and the Dams Ped? > Line breeding takes alot of  work be be sure its done RIGHT… > and alot of times its not and then its called inbreeding… very unsafe. > When I was looking into my breeder.. Her (at the time) next litter was ‘line > bred’ > She told me up front… I, at the time didn’t know what to look for, so I > waited > now I would have no problem with it…If done right theres nothing wrong > with it. > Did your breeder not tell you your dogs was line bred, (Or maybe Inbred)? > You my want to give your breeder a call….. > > i just received my dogs 5 generation pedigree from the akc and i see > the > > same dogs on there more than once. > > is this normal?it seems strange to me. > > thanks,Jeff > Unless both the top and the bottom are the same it’s perfectly normal. > I’ve got a pup promised me in a couple of years from a dog bred back to > her grandfather (#1 competition treeing Catahoula of all time).  It’s > called line breeding and is fairly normal.  It’s used to cement the > traits in a certain breed or line of a breed.  As long as it’s not done > too closely or too much it’s perfectly okay to do and I wouldn’t worry > about it at all.  :) > -Amanda

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"I see the same dogS on there more then once" How miny dogs, times also how miny generations back? ANd are the same dogs in the Sir and the Dams Ped? Line breeding takes alot of  work be be sure its done RIGHT… and alot of times its not and then its called inbreeding… very unsafe. When I was looking into my breeder.. Her (at the time) next litter was ‘line bred’ She told me up front… I, at the time didn’t know what to look for, so I waited now I would have no problem with it…If done right theres nothing wrong with it. Did your breeder not tell you your dogs was line bred, (Or maybe Inbred)? You my want to give your breeder a call…..

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> i just received my dogs 5 generation pedigree from the akc and i see > the > same dogs on there more than once. > is this normal?it seems strange to me. > thanks,Jeff > Unless both the top and the bottom are the same it’s perfectly normal. > I’ve got a pup promised me in a couple of years from a dog bred back to > her grandfather (#1 competition treeing Catahoula of all time).  It’s > called line breeding and is fairly normal.  It’s used to cement the > traits in a certain breed or line of a breed.  As long as it’s not done > too closely or too much it’s perfectly okay to do and I wouldn’t worry > about it at all.  :) > -Amanda

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i just received my dogs 5 generation pedigree from the akc and i see the same dogs on there more than once. is this normal?it seems strange to me. thanks,Jeff

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> i just received my dogs 5 generation pedigree from the akc and i see the > same dogs on there more than once. > is this normal?it seems strange to me. > thanks,Jeff

Unless both the top and the bottom are the same it’s perfectly normal. I’ve got a pup promised me in a couple of years from a dog bred back to her grandfather (#1 competition treeing Catahoula of all time).  It’s called line breeding and is fairly normal.  It’s used to cement the traits in a certain breed or line of a breed.  As long as it’s not done too closely or too much it’s perfectly okay to do and I wouldn’t worry about it at all.  :) -Amanda

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