Tucker vomits, again (update)
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OOoooo. Don’t let them talk you into that!!! I imagine a lot of pills on an empty stomach very well could make him throw up! And maybe the food is too rich. Look, cats can get into a REAL catch-22 situation in regards to vomiting. I went through this with Sugar last November. She worked herself into a inflamed bowel over what was probably JUST a hairball and a sensitive stomach. It may take a while to get his stomach back in line. I hate it when people don’t understand you don’t just abandon animals to "the arms of Morpheus" becuase they are taking a while to get better. I’m sure they are just worried about your finances, but don’t let them plant that idea in your head over just that aspect. The tests sound very good, but poor baby has been through the ringer. Hang in there. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday > and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. > They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him > and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. > Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he > was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the > newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile > vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). > I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency > nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I > want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is > getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned > in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from > the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after > they told me this. > I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. > Rene
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You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. Karen Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.stealth.net!wesley.videotron.net!east1.newsfeed. sprint-canada.net!news.netsurf.net!news.nask.pl!news.prz.rzeszow.pl!news.be lnet.be!colt.net!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!viola.clari.net!cello.c lari.net!clarinews Newsgroups: pl.test Organization: Cancels? Reposts? GtR misses some. HaHa Lines: 1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.11.30.5 Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:35710410
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>Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I >want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is >getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned >in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from >the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after >they told me this.
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I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to your hearts content 
You know, if your car had broken down, they would totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to work, but cats get you through life. Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like seeing anyone feel so bad. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m > doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m > "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, > but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks > I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of > thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" > comments. > Rene > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is > out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Some types of medications are absorbed better and/or produce less (or none) > adverse reactions when taken with food. Others should not be taken with > food. Some medications produce adverse reactions when taken with other > medications, this is called "Drug Interactions". Ask your vet to look up > the drug interaction warnings for the medications Tucker is taking. > However, even if none are listed, its still possible for a combination of > drugs, or just to many drugs to cause vomiting. Try spacing the dosing > schedule. > I think you may be on to something by "related to the Fancy Feast". Because > he ate a different food and didn’t vomit, he may have an > adversion/intolerance to one or more of the ingredients in Fancy Feast. Its > not unusual for a cat to develop an adversion/intolerance to a food he’s > been eating for awhile. An adversion/intolerance to a food or ingredient > is not the same as a food allergy. An allergy has an immunologic basis, an > intolerance/adversion does not have an immunologic basis. IOW, no immune > response. > You may want to try a food that contains no chemical preservatives or dyes > or ambigious by-products (e.g., Nutro Natural Choice, Max Cat) or if he > needs a nutrient dense food, Nutro Natural Choice Kitten or Max Cat Kitten > food. The only other alternatives are a food elimination trial or a novel > protein diet. However, in his current nutritional state, I would try Nutro > Kitten food, first. > Good luck. > Phil. > —
Before everything had happened, he was eating Nutro Max Light dry and the Nutro Gourmet Classics canned. I had been force-feeding the canned GC puree, but switched to the Fancy Feast and some Nutro GC after his last trip to the vet (Thursday). his regular vet). She thinks about what I was thinking–that the antibiotics may be making his stomach upset. She wants me to stop them, but continue with the Cosequin tomorrow morning, and see if his appetite returns. I also need to get a urine sample tonight and bring that in tomorrow. If his appetite does not return by tomorrow evening, I need to bring him in. If it improves, I’ll bring him in on Thursday for bloodwork. Another interesting thing: she does not want him drinking tap water, only distilled and if he won’t drink that, spring water. I seem to remember a discussion here about tap water causing some problems, but I can’t remember what they were. I hope things improve, and that I don’t come home to vomit-covered carpet tonight. Unfortunately, the vet tech told me to pill him this morning. . . I just want this to _work_. Rene Newsgroups: pl.test Organization: Cancels? Reposts? GtR misses some. HaHa Lines: 1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.11.30.5 Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!fu-berlin.de!news.tele.dk!195.158.233.21!news1.ebone. net!news.ebone.net!news.ipartners.pl!news.nask.pl!newsfeed.formus.pl!news.k .pl!news.vogel.pl!news.onet.pl!lublin.pl!news.prz.rzeszow.pl!bloom-beacon.m it.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!viola.clari.net!cello.clari.net!clarinews Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:35710352
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You are a sweetheart! It’s so nice to read the thoughtful messages here. I will call my parents tonight to air this out, and to talk about vacation possibilities. This was a bus tour the three of us were signed up for, and they talked about helping me pay part of it. I’ll see what happens. I haven’t cancelled it yet. The odd thing is that they have pets too, so I would have thought they would understand. They have three dogs and my childhood cat there. Last Thanksgiving their Shih Tzu died of cancer, and I was there for them. I thought maybe they would return the favor. You’re right; maybe I can tell them what you said about not discussing the money aspect with them. I think everyone has their views and priorities. I prefer to let the a/c go in my car and help my cat, for instance, but my dad would rather fix the a/c and see if the pet gets by. Thanks for listening. Everything has really piled up on me lately, and I just need to "talk." Rene – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not > live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can > air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant > well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just > wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on > him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to > your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would > totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts > and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not > your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is > what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to > work, but cats get you through life. > Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you > were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the > ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like > seeing anyone feel so bad. > Karen > I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). > I’m > doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m > "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, > but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two > weeks > I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of > thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" > comments. > Rene > > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, > and > > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just > say > > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They > couldn’t > > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel > very > > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > > Karen
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Before everything had happened, he was eating Nutro Max Light dry and the > Nutro Gourmet Classics canned. I had been force-feeding the canned GC puree, > but switched to the Fancy Feast and some Nutro GC after his last trip to the > vet (Thursday). > his regular vet). She thinks about what I was thinking–that the antibiotics > may be making his stomach upset. She wants me to stop them, but continue > with the Cosequin tomorrow morning, and see if his appetite returns. I also > need to get a urine sample tonight and bring that in tomorrow. If his > appetite does not return by tomorrow evening, I need to bring him in. If it > improves, I’ll bring him in on Thursday for bloodwork. > Another interesting thing: she does not want him drinking tap water, only > distilled and if he won’t drink that, spring water. I seem to remember a > discussion here about tap water causing some problems, but I can’t remember > what they were. > I hope things improve, and that I don’t come home to vomit-covered carpet > tonight. Unfortunately, the vet tech told me to pill him this morning. . . > I just want this to _work_. > Rene
This may sound odd, but did your vet thoroughly examine his nasal passages? Cats appetites are stimulated by smell much more than by taste. They have only 476 taste buds compared to our >9000 but their olfactory bulb contains 15 million more cells than ours. If his sense of smell is impaired (blockage, polyp, damage) his appetite would certainly be affected. Try heating up his food close to body temperature (~95*). Heated food is more aromatic and may stimulate his appetite. I’m running out of possibilities. :(. Good luck. Phil Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.stealth.net!news.tele.dk!194.25.134.62!newsfeed0 0.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsrouter.chello. at!news.ipartners.pl!news.nask.pl!news.prz.rzeszow.pl!news.belnet.be!colt.n et!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!viola.clari.net!cello.clari.net!clari news Newsgroups: pl.test Organization: Cancels? Reposts? GtR misses some. HaHa Lines: 1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.11.30.5 Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:35710279
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hey rene, i hope you find out what is wrong with tucker soon. and i wish you both the best of luck. i know firsthand that sometimes, not knowing is harder then knowing, even if it is something bad. trust me when i say to follow your heart 100%. don’t be swayed by outside influences when it comes to tucker’s health and your feelings. i had a sick cat once and spent money i did not have to try to make him well. no one, not even my husband at the time, understood my devotion to "a cat". but sadly, for him (the husband) and others, they also didn’t know the devotion that this cat had to me. the lengths *he* went to to sacrifice himself for me and our family. his illness was one of the most difficult times in my entire life. and as hard as it was, it was also one of the most inspiring times in my life, and one that changed me fundamentally. i hope i never forget the lessons i learned from one simple cat that never made it to his 1st birthday. i’m sure tucker will win whatever battles he is fighting…and don’t worry….YOU WILL know if the time ever comes to have to make some tough decisions. tucker will let you know. until then, try not to think of the negative things that some people might say to you. they really mean you no harm, they just don’t understand. but as long as *you* know, then the rest won’t matter. god bless you and i can’t wait to hear about tucker’s recovery…. best regards, connie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 11:26 AM I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" comments. Rene > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.stealth.net!news.tele.dk!195.158.233.21!news1.eb one.net!news.ebone.net!news.ipartners.pl!news.nask.pl!news.prz.rzeszow.pl!a ttmtf!ip.att.net!mercury.cts.com!viola.clari.net!cello.clari.net!clarinews Newsgroups: pl.test Organization: Cancels? Reposts? GtR misses some. HaHa Lines: 1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.11.30.5 Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:35710129
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hey rene, i hope you find out what is wrong with tucker soon. and i wish you both the best of luck. i know firsthand that sometimes, not knowing is harder then knowing, even if it is something bad. trust me when i say to follow your heart 100%. don’t be swayed by outside influences when it comes to tucker’s health and your feelings. i had a sick cat once and spent money i did not have to try to make him well. no one, not even my husband at the time, understood my devotion to "a cat". but sadly, for him (the husband) and others, they also didn’t know the devotion that this cat had to me. the lengths *he* went to to sacrifice himself for me and our family. his illness was one of the most difficult times in my entire life. and as hard as it was, it was also one of the most inspiring times in my life, and one that changed me fundamentally. i hope i never forget the lessons i learned from one simple cat that never made it to his 1st birthday. i’m sure tucker will win whatever battles he is fighting…and don’t worry….YOU WILL know if the time ever comes to have to make some tough decisions. tucker will let you know. until then, try not to think of the negative things that some people might say to you. they really mean you no harm, they just don’t understand. but as long as *you* know, then the rest won’t matter. god bless you and i can’t wait to hear about tucker’s recovery…. best regards, connie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 11:26 AM I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" comments. Rene > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen
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Rene, I am sorry to hear that Tucker is not feeling well. Don’t listen to your parents. It’s your money and it your right to choose how to spend it, and your right to spend it on things that are important to you. Tucker is very important and precious to you and you are taking good care of him, when he is feeling better you will know that it was worth it. I will continute to keep Tucker in my thoughts, please keep us posted. Sharon
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You are a sweetheart! It’s so nice to read the thoughtful messages here. I > will call my parents tonight to air this out, and to talk about vacation > possibilities. This was a bus tour the three of us were signed up for, and > they talked about helping me pay part of it. I’ll see what happens. I > haven’t cancelled it yet. > The odd thing is that they have pets too, so I would have thought they would > understand. They have three dogs and my childhood cat there. Last > Thanksgiving their Shih Tzu died of cancer, and I was there for them. I > thought maybe they would return the favor. You’re right; maybe I can tell > them what you said about not discussing the money aspect with them. I think > everyone has their views and priorities. I prefer to let the a/c go in my > car and help my cat, for instance, but my dad would rather fix the a/c and > see if the pet gets by. > Thanks for listening. Everything has really piled up on me lately, and I > just need to "talk." > Rene > I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not > live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can > air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant > well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just > wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on > him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to > your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would > totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts > and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not > your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is > what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to > work, but cats get you through life. > Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you > were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the > ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like > seeing anyone feel so bad. > Karen >> I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). > I’m >> doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m >> "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, >> but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two > weeks >> I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of >> thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" >> comments. >> Rene >> > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, > and >> > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just > say >> > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They > couldn’t >> > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel > very >> > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. >> > Karen
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Rene, I am sorry to hear that Tucker is not feeling well. Don’t listen to your parents. It’s your money and it your right to choose how to spend it, and your right to spend it on things that are important to you. Tucker is very important and precious to you and you are taking good care of him, when he is feeling better you will know that it was worth it. I will continute to keep Tucker in my thoughts, please keep us posted. Sharon
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You are a sweetheart! It’s so nice to read the thoughtful messages here. I > will call my parents tonight to air this out, and to talk about vacation > possibilities. This was a bus tour the three of us were signed up for, and > they talked about helping me pay part of it. I’ll see what happens. I > haven’t cancelled it yet. > The odd thing is that they have pets too, so I would have thought they would > understand. They have three dogs and my childhood cat there. Last > Thanksgiving their Shih Tzu died of cancer, and I was there for them. I > thought maybe they would return the favor. You’re right; maybe I can tell > them what you said about not discussing the money aspect with them. I think > everyone has their views and priorities. I prefer to let the a/c go in my > car and help my cat, for instance, but my dad would rather fix the a/c and > see if the pet gets by. > Thanks for listening. Everything has really piled up on me lately, and I > just need to "talk." > Rene > I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not > live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can > air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant > well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just > wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on > him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to > your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would > totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts > and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not > your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is > what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to > work, but cats get you through life. > Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you > were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the > ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like > seeing anyone feel so bad. > Karen >> I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). > I’m >> doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m >> "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, >> but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two > weeks >> I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of >> thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" >> comments. >> Rene >> > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, > and >> > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just > say >> > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They > couldn’t >> > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel > very >> > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. >> > Karen
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Before everything had happened, he was eating Nutro Max Light dry and the > Nutro Gourmet Classics canned. I had been force-feeding the canned GC puree, > but switched to the Fancy Feast and some Nutro GC after his last trip to the > vet (Thursday). > his regular vet). She thinks about what I was thinking–that the antibiotics > may be making his stomach upset. She wants me to stop them, but continue > with the Cosequin tomorrow morning, and see if his appetite returns. I also > need to get a urine sample tonight and bring that in tomorrow. If his > appetite does not return by tomorrow evening, I need to bring him in. If it > improves, I’ll bring him in on Thursday for bloodwork. > Another interesting thing: she does not want him drinking tap water, only > distilled and if he won’t drink that, spring water. I seem to remember a > discussion here about tap water causing some problems, but I can’t remember > what they were. > I hope things improve, and that I don’t come home to vomit-covered carpet > tonight. Unfortunately, the vet tech told me to pill him this morning. . . > I just want this to _work_. > Rene
This may sound odd, but did your vet thoroughly examine his nasal passages? Cats appetites are stimulated by smell much more than by taste. They have only 476 taste buds compared to our >9000 but their olfactory bulb contains 15 million more cells than ours. If his sense of smell is impaired (blockage, polyp, damage) his appetite would certainly be affected. Try heating up his food close to body temperature (~95*). Heated food is more aromatic and may stimulate his appetite. I’m running out of possibilities. :(. Good luck. Phil
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You are a sweetheart! It’s so nice to read the thoughtful messages here. I will call my parents tonight to air this out, and to talk about vacation possibilities. This was a bus tour the three of us were signed up for, and they talked about helping me pay part of it. I’ll see what happens. I haven’t cancelled it yet. The odd thing is that they have pets too, so I would have thought they would understand. They have three dogs and my childhood cat there. Last Thanksgiving their Shih Tzu died of cancer, and I was there for them. I thought maybe they would return the favor. You’re right; maybe I can tell them what you said about not discussing the money aspect with them. I think everyone has their views and priorities. I prefer to let the a/c go in my car and help my cat, for instance, but my dad would rather fix the a/c and see if the pet gets by. Thanks for listening. Everything has really piled up on me lately, and I just need to "talk." Rene – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not > live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can > air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant > well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just > wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on > him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to > your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would > totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts > and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not > your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is > what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to > work, but cats get you through life. > Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you > were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the > ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like > seeing anyone feel so bad. > Karen > I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). > I’m > doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m > "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, > but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two > weeks > I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of > thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" > comments. > Rene > > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, > and > > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just > say > > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They > couldn’t > > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel > very > > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > > Karen
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I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" comments. Rene – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen
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I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to work, but cats get you through life. Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like seeing anyone feel so bad. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m > doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m > "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, > but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks > I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of > thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" > comments. > Rene > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen
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>Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I >want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is >getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned >in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from >the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after >they told me this.
I am so sorry to hear about your kitty, and what your parents said.
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You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. Karen
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is > out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Some types of medications are absorbed better and/or produce less (or none) > adverse reactions when taken with food. Others should not be taken with > food. Some medications produce adverse reactions when taken with other > medications, this is called "Drug Interactions". Ask your vet to look up > the drug interaction warnings for the medications Tucker is taking. > However, even if none are listed, its still possible for a combination of > drugs, or just to many drugs to cause vomiting. Try spacing the dosing > schedule. > I think you may be on to something by "related to the Fancy Feast". Because > he ate a different food and didn’t vomit, he may have an > adversion/intolerance to one or more of the ingredients in Fancy Feast. Its > not unusual for a cat to develop an adversion/intolerance to a food he’s > been eating for awhile. An adversion/intolerance to a food or ingredient > is not the same as a food allergy. An allergy has an immunologic basis, an > intolerance/adversion does not have an immunologic basis. IOW, no immune > response. > You may want to try a food that contains no chemical preservatives or dyes > or ambigious by-products (e.g., Nutro Natural Choice, Max Cat) or if he > needs a nutrient dense food, Nutro Natural Choice Kitten or Max Cat Kitten > food. The only other alternatives are a food elimination trial or a novel > protein diet. However, in his current nutritional state, I would try Nutro > Kitten food, first. > Good luck. > Phil. > —
Before everything had happened, he was eating Nutro Max Light dry and the Nutro Gourmet Classics canned. I had been force-feeding the canned GC puree, but switched to the Fancy Feast and some Nutro GC after his last trip to the vet (Thursday). his regular vet). She thinks about what I was thinking–that the antibiotics may be making his stomach upset. She wants me to stop them, but continue with the Cosequin tomorrow morning, and see if his appetite returns. I also need to get a urine sample tonight and bring that in tomorrow. If his appetite does not return by tomorrow evening, I need to bring him in. If it improves, I’ll bring him in on Thursday for bloodwork. Another interesting thing: she does not want him drinking tap water, only distilled and if he won’t drink that, spring water. I seem to remember a discussion here about tap water causing some problems, but I can’t remember what they were. I hope things improve, and that I don’t come home to vomit-covered carpet tonight. Unfortunately, the vet tech told me to pill him this morning. . . I just want this to _work_. Rene
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This probably isn’t much help or a relevant comparison but I hope it will ease some of your panic. I know that for myself, medications often make me sick to my stomach, especially when I"ve been sick and am already weak. I often have to take compazine (sp?) just so I can take the meds I need. I wonder if there is an equivalent stomach-settling medication for cats (like compazine) that would help Tucker tolerate the other meds? Anna
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> Hi again,
> the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up?
Some types of medications are absorbed better and/or produce less (or none) adverse reactions when taken with food. Others should not be taken with food. Some medications produce adverse reactions when taken with other medications, this is called "Drug Interactions". Ask your vet to look up the drug interaction warnings for the medications Tucker is taking. However, even if none are listed, its still possible for a combination of drugs, or just to many drugs to cause vomiting. Try spacing the dosing schedule. I think you may be on to something by "related to the Fancy Feast". Because he ate a different food and didn’t vomit, he may have an adversion/intolerance to one or more of the ingredients in Fancy Feast. Its not unusual for a cat to develop an adversion/intolerance to a food he’s been eating for awhile. An adversion/intolerance to a food or ingredient is not the same as a food allergy. An allergy has an immunologic basis, an intolerance/adversion does not have an immunologic basis. IOW, no immune response. You may want to try a food that contains no chemical preservatives or dyes or ambigious by-products (e.g., Nutro Natural Choice, Max Cat) or if he needs a nutrient dense food, Nutro Natural Choice Kitten or Max Cat Kitten food. The only other alternatives are a food elimination trial or a novel protein diet. However, in his current nutritional state, I would try Nutro Kitten food, first. Good luck. Phil. — "Cat eyes seem a bridge to a world beyond the one we know" — Lynn Hollyn Feline Healthcare – http://maxshouse.com
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OOoooo. Don’t let them talk you into that!!! I imagine a lot of pills on an empty stomach very well could make him throw up! And maybe the food is too rich. Look, cats can get into a REAL catch-22 situation in regards to vomiting. I went through this with Sugar last November. She worked herself into a inflamed bowel over what was probably JUST a hairball and a sensitive stomach. It may take a while to get his stomach back in line. I hate it when people don’t understand you don’t just abandon animals to "the arms of Morpheus" becuase they are taking a while to get better. I’m sure they are just worried about your finances, but don’t let them plant that idea in your head over just that aspect. The tests sound very good, but poor baby has been through the ringer. Hang in there. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday > and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. > They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him > and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. > Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he > was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the > newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile > vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). > I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency > nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I > want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is > getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned > in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from > the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after > they told me this. > I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. > Rene
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my thoughts and best wishes are with you. sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi again, > I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday > and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. > They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him > and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. > Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he > was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the > newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile > vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). > I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency > nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I > want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is > getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned > in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from > the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after > they told me this. > I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. > Rene
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday > and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. > They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him > and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. > Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he > was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the > newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile > vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). > I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency > nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I > want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is > getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned > in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from > the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after > they told me this. > I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. > Rene
Rene — I’m so sorry for the stress you’re going through — please know that we are sending mega purrs, crossed paws, and the very best of wishes to you and Tucker for his condition to improve! I would think that so many pills for a kitty whose stomach is already sensitive would be the problem here, although I’m not the vet! As for putting him down, I wouldn’t listen to your parents, listen to your heart as you know Tucker better than anyone and if and when it is time, you will know it. As far as thin pocketbooks go, we have experienced that also and though I’m sure you know this, it is worth every cent to help your friend. The very best of luck to you and to Tucker from all of us, Christine, Omar, Midnight & Shetra
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Hi again, I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could so many pills make him throw up? Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after they told me this. I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. Rene
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OOoooo. Don’t let them talk you into that!!! I imagine a lot of pills on an empty stomach very well could make him throw up! And maybe the food is too rich. Look, cats can get into a REAL catch-22 situation in regards to vomiting. I went through this with Sugar last November. She worked herself into a inflamed bowel over what was probably JUST a hairball and a sensitive stomach. It may take a while to get his stomach back in line. I hate it when people don’t understand you don’t just abandon animals to "the arms of Morpheus" becuase they are taking a while to get better. I’m sure they are just worried about your finances, but don’t let them plant that idea in your head over just that aspect. The tests sound very good, but poor baby has been through the ringer. Hang in there. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday > and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. > They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him > and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. > Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he > was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the > newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile > vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). > I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency > nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I > want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is > getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned > in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from > the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after > they told me this. > I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. > Rene
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You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. Karen Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.stealth.net!wesley.videotron.net!east1.newsfeed. sprint-canada.net!news.netsurf.net!news.nask.pl!news.prz.rzeszow.pl!news.be lnet.be!colt.net!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!viola.clari.net!cello.c lari.net!clarinews Newsgroups: pl.test Organization: Cancels? Reposts? GtR misses some. HaHa Lines: 1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.11.30.5 Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:35710410
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>Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I >want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is >getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned >in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from >the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after >they told me this.
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I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to work, but cats get you through life. Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like seeing anyone feel so bad. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m > doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m > "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, > but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks > I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of > thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" > comments. > Rene > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is > out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Some types of medications are absorbed better and/or produce less (or none) > adverse reactions when taken with food. Others should not be taken with > food. Some medications produce adverse reactions when taken with other > medications, this is called "Drug Interactions". Ask your vet to look up > the drug interaction warnings for the medications Tucker is taking. > However, even if none are listed, its still possible for a combination of > drugs, or just to many drugs to cause vomiting. Try spacing the dosing > schedule. > I think you may be on to something by "related to the Fancy Feast". Because > he ate a different food and didn’t vomit, he may have an > adversion/intolerance to one or more of the ingredients in Fancy Feast. Its > not unusual for a cat to develop an adversion/intolerance to a food he’s > been eating for awhile. An adversion/intolerance to a food or ingredient > is not the same as a food allergy. An allergy has an immunologic basis, an > intolerance/adversion does not have an immunologic basis. IOW, no immune > response. > You may want to try a food that contains no chemical preservatives or dyes > or ambigious by-products (e.g., Nutro Natural Choice, Max Cat) or if he > needs a nutrient dense food, Nutro Natural Choice Kitten or Max Cat Kitten > food. The only other alternatives are a food elimination trial or a novel > protein diet. However, in his current nutritional state, I would try Nutro > Kitten food, first. > Good luck. > Phil. > —
Before everything had happened, he was eating Nutro Max Light dry and the Nutro Gourmet Classics canned. I had been force-feeding the canned GC puree, but switched to the Fancy Feast and some Nutro GC after his last trip to the vet (Thursday). his regular vet). She thinks about what I was thinking–that the antibiotics may be making his stomach upset. She wants me to stop them, but continue with the Cosequin tomorrow morning, and see if his appetite returns. I also need to get a urine sample tonight and bring that in tomorrow. If his appetite does not return by tomorrow evening, I need to bring him in. If it improves, I’ll bring him in on Thursday for bloodwork. Another interesting thing: she does not want him drinking tap water, only distilled and if he won’t drink that, spring water. I seem to remember a discussion here about tap water causing some problems, but I can’t remember what they were. I hope things improve, and that I don’t come home to vomit-covered carpet tonight. Unfortunately, the vet tech told me to pill him this morning. . . I just want this to _work_. Rene Newsgroups: pl.test Organization: Cancels? Reposts? GtR misses some. HaHa Lines: 1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.11.30.5 Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!fu-berlin.de!news.tele.dk!195.158.233.21!news1.ebone. net!news.ebone.net!news.ipartners.pl!news.nask.pl!newsfeed.formus.pl!news.k .pl!news.vogel.pl!news.onet.pl!lublin.pl!news.prz.rzeszow.pl!bloom-beacon.m it.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!viola.clari.net!cello.clari.net!clarinews Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:35710352
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You are a sweetheart! It’s so nice to read the thoughtful messages here. I will call my parents tonight to air this out, and to talk about vacation possibilities. This was a bus tour the three of us were signed up for, and they talked about helping me pay part of it. I’ll see what happens. I haven’t cancelled it yet. The odd thing is that they have pets too, so I would have thought they would understand. They have three dogs and my childhood cat there. Last Thanksgiving their Shih Tzu died of cancer, and I was there for them. I thought maybe they would return the favor. You’re right; maybe I can tell them what you said about not discussing the money aspect with them. I think everyone has their views and priorities. I prefer to let the a/c go in my car and help my cat, for instance, but my dad would rather fix the a/c and see if the pet gets by. Thanks for listening. Everything has really piled up on me lately, and I just need to "talk." Rene – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not > live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can > air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant > well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just > wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on > him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to > your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would > totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts > and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not > your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is > what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to > work, but cats get you through life. > Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you > were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the > ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like > seeing anyone feel so bad. > Karen > I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). > I’m > doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m > "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, > but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two > weeks > I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of > thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" > comments. > Rene > > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, > and > > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just > say > > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They > couldn’t > > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel > very > > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > > Karen
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Before everything had happened, he was eating Nutro Max Light dry and the > Nutro Gourmet Classics canned. I had been force-feeding the canned GC puree, > but switched to the Fancy Feast and some Nutro GC after his last trip to the > vet (Thursday). > his regular vet). She thinks about what I was thinking–that the antibiotics > may be making his stomach upset. She wants me to stop them, but continue > with the Cosequin tomorrow morning, and see if his appetite returns. I also > need to get a urine sample tonight and bring that in tomorrow. If his > appetite does not return by tomorrow evening, I need to bring him in. If it > improves, I’ll bring him in on Thursday for bloodwork. > Another interesting thing: she does not want him drinking tap water, only > distilled and if he won’t drink that, spring water. I seem to remember a > discussion here about tap water causing some problems, but I can’t remember > what they were. > I hope things improve, and that I don’t come home to vomit-covered carpet > tonight. Unfortunately, the vet tech told me to pill him this morning. . . > I just want this to _work_. > Rene
This may sound odd, but did your vet thoroughly examine his nasal passages? Cats appetites are stimulated by smell much more than by taste. They have only 476 taste buds compared to our >9000 but their olfactory bulb contains 15 million more cells than ours. If his sense of smell is impaired (blockage, polyp, damage) his appetite would certainly be affected. Try heating up his food close to body temperature (~95*). Heated food is more aromatic and may stimulate his appetite. I’m running out of possibilities. :(. Good luck. Phil Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.stealth.net!news.tele.dk!194.25.134.62!newsfeed0 0.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsrouter.chello. at!news.ipartners.pl!news.nask.pl!news.prz.rzeszow.pl!news.belnet.be!colt.n et!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!viola.clari.net!cello.clari.net!clari news Newsgroups: pl.test Organization: Cancels? Reposts? GtR misses some. HaHa Lines: 1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.11.30.5 Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:35710279
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hey rene, i hope you find out what is wrong with tucker soon. and i wish you both the best of luck. i know firsthand that sometimes, not knowing is harder then knowing, even if it is something bad. trust me when i say to follow your heart 100%. don’t be swayed by outside influences when it comes to tucker’s health and your feelings. i had a sick cat once and spent money i did not have to try to make him well. no one, not even my husband at the time, understood my devotion to "a cat". but sadly, for him (the husband) and others, they also didn’t know the devotion that this cat had to me. the lengths *he* went to to sacrifice himself for me and our family. his illness was one of the most difficult times in my entire life. and as hard as it was, it was also one of the most inspiring times in my life, and one that changed me fundamentally. i hope i never forget the lessons i learned from one simple cat that never made it to his 1st birthday. i’m sure tucker will win whatever battles he is fighting…and don’t worry….YOU WILL know if the time ever comes to have to make some tough decisions. tucker will let you know. until then, try not to think of the negative things that some people might say to you. they really mean you no harm, they just don’t understand. but as long as *you* know, then the rest won’t matter. god bless you and i can’t wait to hear about tucker’s recovery…. best regards, connie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 11:26 AM I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" comments. Rene > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.stealth.net!news.tele.dk!195.158.233.21!news1.eb one.net!news.ebone.net!news.ipartners.pl!news.nask.pl!news.prz.rzeszow.pl!a ttmtf!ip.att.net!mercury.cts.com!viola.clari.net!cello.clari.net!clarinews Newsgroups: pl.test Organization: Cancels? Reposts? GtR misses some. HaHa Lines: 1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.11.30.5 Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:35710129
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hey rene, i hope you find out what is wrong with tucker soon. and i wish you both the best of luck. i know firsthand that sometimes, not knowing is harder then knowing, even if it is something bad. trust me when i say to follow your heart 100%. don’t be swayed by outside influences when it comes to tucker’s health and your feelings. i had a sick cat once and spent money i did not have to try to make him well. no one, not even my husband at the time, understood my devotion to "a cat". but sadly, for him (the husband) and others, they also didn’t know the devotion that this cat had to me. the lengths *he* went to to sacrifice himself for me and our family. his illness was one of the most difficult times in my entire life. and as hard as it was, it was also one of the most inspiring times in my life, and one that changed me fundamentally. i hope i never forget the lessons i learned from one simple cat that never made it to his 1st birthday. i’m sure tucker will win whatever battles he is fighting…and don’t worry….YOU WILL know if the time ever comes to have to make some tough decisions. tucker will let you know. until then, try not to think of the negative things that some people might say to you. they really mean you no harm, they just don’t understand. but as long as *you* know, then the rest won’t matter. god bless you and i can’t wait to hear about tucker’s recovery…. best regards, connie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 11:26 AM I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" comments. Rene > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen
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Rene, I am sorry to hear that Tucker is not feeling well. Don’t listen to your parents. It’s your money and it your right to choose how to spend it, and your right to spend it on things that are important to you. Tucker is very important and precious to you and you are taking good care of him, when he is feeling better you will know that it was worth it. I will continute to keep Tucker in my thoughts, please keep us posted. Sharon
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You are a sweetheart! It’s so nice to read the thoughtful messages here. I > will call my parents tonight to air this out, and to talk about vacation > possibilities. This was a bus tour the three of us were signed up for, and > they talked about helping me pay part of it. I’ll see what happens. I > haven’t cancelled it yet. > The odd thing is that they have pets too, so I would have thought they would > understand. They have three dogs and my childhood cat there. Last > Thanksgiving their Shih Tzu died of cancer, and I was there for them. I > thought maybe they would return the favor. You’re right; maybe I can tell > them what you said about not discussing the money aspect with them. I think > everyone has their views and priorities. I prefer to let the a/c go in my > car and help my cat, for instance, but my dad would rather fix the a/c and > see if the pet gets by. > Thanks for listening. Everything has really piled up on me lately, and I > just need to "talk." > Rene > I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not > live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can > air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant > well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just > wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on > him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to > your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would > totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts > and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not > your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is > what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to > work, but cats get you through life. > Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you > were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the > ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like > seeing anyone feel so bad. > Karen >> I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). > I’m >> doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m >> "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, >> but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two > weeks >> I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of >> thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" >> comments. >> Rene >> > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, > and >> > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just > say >> > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They > couldn’t >> > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel > very >> > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. >> > Karen
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Rene, I am sorry to hear that Tucker is not feeling well. Don’t listen to your parents. It’s your money and it your right to choose how to spend it, and your right to spend it on things that are important to you. Tucker is very important and precious to you and you are taking good care of him, when he is feeling better you will know that it was worth it. I will continute to keep Tucker in my thoughts, please keep us posted. Sharon
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You are a sweetheart! It’s so nice to read the thoughtful messages here. I > will call my parents tonight to air this out, and to talk about vacation > possibilities. This was a bus tour the three of us were signed up for, and > they talked about helping me pay part of it. I’ll see what happens. I > haven’t cancelled it yet. > The odd thing is that they have pets too, so I would have thought they would > understand. They have three dogs and my childhood cat there. Last > Thanksgiving their Shih Tzu died of cancer, and I was there for them. I > thought maybe they would return the favor. You’re right; maybe I can tell > them what you said about not discussing the money aspect with them. I think > everyone has their views and priorities. I prefer to let the a/c go in my > car and help my cat, for instance, but my dad would rather fix the a/c and > see if the pet gets by. > Thanks for listening. Everything has really piled up on me lately, and I > just need to "talk." > Rene > I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not > live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can > air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant > well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just > wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on > him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to > your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would > totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts > and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not > your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is > what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to > work, but cats get you through life. > Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you > were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the > ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like > seeing anyone feel so bad. > Karen >> I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). > I’m >> doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m >> "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, >> but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two > weeks >> I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of >> thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" >> comments. >> Rene >> > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, > and >> > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just > say >> > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They > couldn’t >> > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel > very >> > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. >> > Karen
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Before everything had happened, he was eating Nutro Max Light dry and the > Nutro Gourmet Classics canned. I had been force-feeding the canned GC puree, > but switched to the Fancy Feast and some Nutro GC after his last trip to the > vet (Thursday). > his regular vet). She thinks about what I was thinking–that the antibiotics > may be making his stomach upset. She wants me to stop them, but continue > with the Cosequin tomorrow morning, and see if his appetite returns. I also > need to get a urine sample tonight and bring that in tomorrow. If his > appetite does not return by tomorrow evening, I need to bring him in. If it > improves, I’ll bring him in on Thursday for bloodwork. > Another interesting thing: she does not want him drinking tap water, only > distilled and if he won’t drink that, spring water. I seem to remember a > discussion here about tap water causing some problems, but I can’t remember > what they were. > I hope things improve, and that I don’t come home to vomit-covered carpet > tonight. Unfortunately, the vet tech told me to pill him this morning. . . > I just want this to _work_. > Rene
This may sound odd, but did your vet thoroughly examine his nasal passages? Cats appetites are stimulated by smell much more than by taste. They have only 476 taste buds compared to our >9000 but their olfactory bulb contains 15 million more cells than ours. If his sense of smell is impaired (blockage, polyp, damage) his appetite would certainly be affected. Try heating up his food close to body temperature (~95*). Heated food is more aromatic and may stimulate his appetite. I’m running out of possibilities. :(. Good luck. Phil
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You are a sweetheart! It’s so nice to read the thoughtful messages here. I will call my parents tonight to air this out, and to talk about vacation possibilities. This was a bus tour the three of us were signed up for, and they talked about helping me pay part of it. I’ll see what happens. I haven’t cancelled it yet. The odd thing is that they have pets too, so I would have thought they would understand. They have three dogs and my childhood cat there. Last Thanksgiving their Shih Tzu died of cancer, and I was there for them. I thought maybe they would return the favor. You’re right; maybe I can tell them what you said about not discussing the money aspect with them. I think everyone has their views and priorities. I prefer to let the a/c go in my car and help my cat, for instance, but my dad would rather fix the a/c and see if the pet gets by. Thanks for listening. Everything has really piled up on me lately, and I just need to "talk." Rene – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not > live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can > air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant > well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just > wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on > him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to > your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would > totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts > and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not > your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is > what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to > work, but cats get you through life. > Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you > were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the > ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like > seeing anyone feel so bad. > Karen > I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). > I’m > doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m > "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, > but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two > weeks > I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of > thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" > comments. > Rene > > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, > and > > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just > say > > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They > couldn’t > > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel > very > > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > > Karen
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I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" comments. Rene – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen
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I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to work, but cats get you through life. Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like seeing anyone feel so bad. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m > doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m > "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, > but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks > I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of > thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" > comments. > Rene > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen
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>Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I >want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is >getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned >in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from >the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after >they told me this.
I am so sorry to hear about your kitty, and what your parents said.
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You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. Karen
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is > out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Some types of medications are absorbed better and/or produce less (or none) > adverse reactions when taken with food. Others should not be taken with > food. Some medications produce adverse reactions when taken with other > medications, this is called "Drug Interactions". Ask your vet to look up > the drug interaction warnings for the medications Tucker is taking. > However, even if none are listed, its still possible for a combination of > drugs, or just to many drugs to cause vomiting. Try spacing the dosing > schedule. > I think you may be on to something by "related to the Fancy Feast". Because > he ate a different food and didn’t vomit, he may have an > adversion/intolerance to one or more of the ingredients in Fancy Feast. Its > not unusual for a cat to develop an adversion/intolerance to a food he’s > been eating for awhile. An adversion/intolerance to a food or ingredient > is not the same as a food allergy. An allergy has an immunologic basis, an > intolerance/adversion does not have an immunologic basis. IOW, no immune > response. > You may want to try a food that contains no chemical preservatives or dyes > or ambigious by-products (e.g., Nutro Natural Choice, Max Cat) or if he > needs a nutrient dense food, Nutro Natural Choice Kitten or Max Cat Kitten > food. The only other alternatives are a food elimination trial or a novel > protein diet. However, in his current nutritional state, I would try Nutro > Kitten food, first. > Good luck. > Phil. > —
Before everything had happened, he was eating Nutro Max Light dry and the Nutro Gourmet Classics canned. I had been force-feeding the canned GC puree, but switched to the Fancy Feast and some Nutro GC after his last trip to the vet (Thursday). his regular vet). She thinks about what I was thinking–that the antibiotics may be making his stomach upset. She wants me to stop them, but continue with the Cosequin tomorrow morning, and see if his appetite returns. I also need to get a urine sample tonight and bring that in tomorrow. If his appetite does not return by tomorrow evening, I need to bring him in. If it improves, I’ll bring him in on Thursday for bloodwork. Another interesting thing: she does not want him drinking tap water, only distilled and if he won’t drink that, spring water. I seem to remember a discussion here about tap water causing some problems, but I can’t remember what they were. I hope things improve, and that I don’t come home to vomit-covered carpet tonight. Unfortunately, the vet tech told me to pill him this morning. . . I just want this to _work_. Rene
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This probably isn’t much help or a relevant comparison but I hope it will ease some of your panic. I know that for myself, medications often make me sick to my stomach, especially when I"ve been sick and am already weak. I often have to take compazine (sp?) just so I can take the meds I need. I wonder if there is an equivalent stomach-settling medication for cats (like compazine) that would help Tucker tolerate the other meds? Anna
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> Hi again,
> the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up?
Some types of medications are absorbed better and/or produce less (or none) adverse reactions when taken with food. Others should not be taken with food. Some medications produce adverse reactions when taken with other medications, this is called "Drug Interactions". Ask your vet to look up the drug interaction warnings for the medications Tucker is taking. However, even if none are listed, its still possible for a combination of drugs, or just to many drugs to cause vomiting. Try spacing the dosing schedule. I think you may be on to something by "related to the Fancy Feast". Because he ate a different food and didn’t vomit, he may have an adversion/intolerance to one or more of the ingredients in Fancy Feast. Its not unusual for a cat to develop an adversion/intolerance to a food he’s been eating for awhile. An adversion/intolerance to a food or ingredient is not the same as a food allergy. An allergy has an immunologic basis, an intolerance/adversion does not have an immunologic basis. IOW, no immune response. You may want to try a food that contains no chemical preservatives or dyes or ambigious by-products (e.g., Nutro Natural Choice, Max Cat) or if he needs a nutrient dense food, Nutro Natural Choice Kitten or Max Cat Kitten food. The only other alternatives are a food elimination trial or a novel protein diet. However, in his current nutritional state, I would try Nutro Kitten food, first. Good luck. Phil. — "Cat eyes seem a bridge to a world beyond the one we know" — Lynn Hollyn Feline Healthcare – http://maxshouse.com
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OOoooo. Don’t let them talk you into that!!! I imagine a lot of pills on an empty stomach very well could make him throw up! And maybe the food is too rich. Look, cats can get into a REAL catch-22 situation in regards to vomiting. I went through this with Sugar last November. She worked herself into a inflamed bowel over what was probably JUST a hairball and a sensitive stomach. It may take a while to get his stomach back in line. I hate it when people don’t understand you don’t just abandon animals to "the arms of Morpheus" becuase they are taking a while to get better. I’m sure they are just worried about your finances, but don’t let them plant that idea in your head over just that aspect. The tests sound very good, but poor baby has been through the ringer. Hang in there. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday > and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. > They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him > and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. > Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he > was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the > newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile > vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). > I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency > nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I > want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is > getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned > in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from > the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after > they told me this. > I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. > Rene
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my thoughts and best wishes are with you. sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi again, > I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday > and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. > They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him > and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. > Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he > was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the > newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile > vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). > I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency > nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I > want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is > getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned > in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from > the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after > they told me this. > I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. > Rene
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday > and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. > They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him > and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. > Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he > was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the > newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile > vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). > I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency > nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I > want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is > getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned > in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from > the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after > they told me this. > I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. > Rene
Rene — I’m so sorry for the stress you’re going through — please know that we are sending mega purrs, crossed paws, and the very best of wishes to you and Tucker for his condition to improve! I would think that so many pills for a kitty whose stomach is already sensitive would be the problem here, although I’m not the vet! As for putting him down, I wouldn’t listen to your parents, listen to your heart as you know Tucker better than anyone and if and when it is time, you will know it. As far as thin pocketbooks go, we have experienced that also and though I’m sure you know this, it is worth every cent to help your friend. The very best of luck to you and to Tucker from all of us, Christine, Omar, Midnight & Shetra
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Hi again, I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could so many pills make him throw up? Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after they told me this. I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. Rene
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OOoooo. Don’t let them talk you into that!!! I imagine a lot of pills on an empty stomach very well could make him throw up! And maybe the food is too rich. Look, cats can get into a REAL catch-22 situation in regards to vomiting. I went through this with Sugar last November. She worked herself into a inflamed bowel over what was probably JUST a hairball and a sensitive stomach. It may take a while to get his stomach back in line. I hate it when people don’t understand you don’t just abandon animals to "the arms of Morpheus" becuase they are taking a while to get better. I’m sure they are just worried about your finances, but don’t let them plant that idea in your head over just that aspect. The tests sound very good, but poor baby has been through the ringer. Hang in there. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday > and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. > They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him > and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. > Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he > was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the > newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile > vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). > I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency > nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I > want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is > getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned > in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from > the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after > they told me this. > I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. > Rene
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You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. Karen Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.stealth.net!wesley.videotron.net!east1.newsfeed. sprint-canada.net!news.netsurf.net!news.nask.pl!news.prz.rzeszow.pl!news.be lnet.be!colt.net!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!viola.clari.net!cello.c lari.net!clarinews Newsgroups: pl.test Organization: Cancels? Reposts? GtR misses some. HaHa Lines: 1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.11.30.5 Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:35710410
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>Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I >want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is >getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned >in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from >the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after >they told me this.
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I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to work, but cats get you through life. Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like seeing anyone feel so bad. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m > doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m > "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, > but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks > I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of > thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" > comments. > Rene > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is > out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Some types of medications are absorbed better and/or produce less (or none) > adverse reactions when taken with food. Others should not be taken with > food. Some medications produce adverse reactions when taken with other > medications, this is called "Drug Interactions". Ask your vet to look up > the drug interaction warnings for the medications Tucker is taking. > However, even if none are listed, its still possible for a combination of > drugs, or just to many drugs to cause vomiting. Try spacing the dosing > schedule. > I think you may be on to something by "related to the Fancy Feast". Because > he ate a different food and didn’t vomit, he may have an > adversion/intolerance to one or more of the ingredients in Fancy Feast. Its > not unusual for a cat to develop an adversion/intolerance to a food he’s > been eating for awhile. An adversion/intolerance to a food or ingredient > is not the same as a food allergy. An allergy has an immunologic basis, an > intolerance/adversion does not have an immunologic basis. IOW, no immune > response. > You may want to try a food that contains no chemical preservatives or dyes > or ambigious by-products (e.g., Nutro Natural Choice, Max Cat) or if he > needs a nutrient dense food, Nutro Natural Choice Kitten or Max Cat Kitten > food. The only other alternatives are a food elimination trial or a novel > protein diet. However, in his current nutritional state, I would try Nutro > Kitten food, first. > Good luck. > Phil. > —
Before everything had happened, he was eating Nutro Max Light dry and the Nutro Gourmet Classics canned. I had been force-feeding the canned GC puree, but switched to the Fancy Feast and some Nutro GC after his last trip to the vet (Thursday). his regular vet). She thinks about what I was thinking–that the antibiotics may be making his stomach upset. She wants me to stop them, but continue with the Cosequin tomorrow morning, and see if his appetite returns. I also need to get a urine sample tonight and bring that in tomorrow. If his appetite does not return by tomorrow evening, I need to bring him in. If it improves, I’ll bring him in on Thursday for bloodwork. Another interesting thing: she does not want him drinking tap water, only distilled and if he won’t drink that, spring water. I seem to remember a discussion here about tap water causing some problems, but I can’t remember what they were. I hope things improve, and that I don’t come home to vomit-covered carpet tonight. Unfortunately, the vet tech told me to pill him this morning. . . I just want this to _work_. Rene Newsgroups: pl.test Organization: Cancels? Reposts? GtR misses some. HaHa Lines: 1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.11.30.5 Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!fu-berlin.de!news.tele.dk!195.158.233.21!news1.ebone. net!news.ebone.net!news.ipartners.pl!news.nask.pl!newsfeed.formus.pl!news.k .pl!news.vogel.pl!news.onet.pl!lublin.pl!news.prz.rzeszow.pl!bloom-beacon.m it.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!viola.clari.net!cello.clari.net!clarinews Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:35710352
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You are a sweetheart! It’s so nice to read the thoughtful messages here. I will call my parents tonight to air this out, and to talk about vacation possibilities. This was a bus tour the three of us were signed up for, and they talked about helping me pay part of it. I’ll see what happens. I haven’t cancelled it yet. The odd thing is that they have pets too, so I would have thought they would understand. They have three dogs and my childhood cat there. Last Thanksgiving their Shih Tzu died of cancer, and I was there for them. I thought maybe they would return the favor. You’re right; maybe I can tell them what you said about not discussing the money aspect with them. I think everyone has their views and priorities. I prefer to let the a/c go in my car and help my cat, for instance, but my dad would rather fix the a/c and see if the pet gets by. Thanks for listening. Everything has really piled up on me lately, and I just need to "talk." Rene – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not > live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can > air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant > well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just > wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on > him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to > your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would > totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts > and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not > your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is > what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to > work, but cats get you through life. > Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you > were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the > ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like > seeing anyone feel so bad. > Karen > I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). > I’m > doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m > "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, > but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two > weeks > I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of > thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" > comments. > Rene > > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, > and > > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just > say > > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They > couldn’t > > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel > very > > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > > Karen
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Before everything had happened, he was eating Nutro Max Light dry and the > Nutro Gourmet Classics canned. I had been force-feeding the canned GC puree, > but switched to the Fancy Feast and some Nutro GC after his last trip to the > vet (Thursday). > his regular vet). She thinks about what I was thinking–that the antibiotics > may be making his stomach upset. She wants me to stop them, but continue > with the Cosequin tomorrow morning, and see if his appetite returns. I also > need to get a urine sample tonight and bring that in tomorrow. If his > appetite does not return by tomorrow evening, I need to bring him in. If it > improves, I’ll bring him in on Thursday for bloodwork. > Another interesting thing: she does not want him drinking tap water, only > distilled and if he won’t drink that, spring water. I seem to remember a > discussion here about tap water causing some problems, but I can’t remember > what they were. > I hope things improve, and that I don’t come home to vomit-covered carpet > tonight. Unfortunately, the vet tech told me to pill him this morning. . . > I just want this to _work_. > Rene
This may sound odd, but did your vet thoroughly examine his nasal passages? Cats appetites are stimulated by smell much more than by taste. They have only 476 taste buds compared to our >9000 but their olfactory bulb contains 15 million more cells than ours. If his sense of smell is impaired (blockage, polyp, damage) his appetite would certainly be affected. Try heating up his food close to body temperature (~95*). Heated food is more aromatic and may stimulate his appetite. I’m running out of possibilities. :(. Good luck. Phil Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.stealth.net!news.tele.dk!194.25.134.62!newsfeed0 0.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsrouter.chello. at!news.ipartners.pl!news.nask.pl!news.prz.rzeszow.pl!news.belnet.be!colt.n et!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!viola.clari.net!cello.clari.net!clari news Newsgroups: pl.test Organization: Cancels? Reposts? GtR misses some. HaHa Lines: 1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.11.30.5 Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:35710279
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hey rene, i hope you find out what is wrong with tucker soon. and i wish you both the best of luck. i know firsthand that sometimes, not knowing is harder then knowing, even if it is something bad. trust me when i say to follow your heart 100%. don’t be swayed by outside influences when it comes to tucker’s health and your feelings. i had a sick cat once and spent money i did not have to try to make him well. no one, not even my husband at the time, understood my devotion to "a cat". but sadly, for him (the husband) and others, they also didn’t know the devotion that this cat had to me. the lengths *he* went to to sacrifice himself for me and our family. his illness was one of the most difficult times in my entire life. and as hard as it was, it was also one of the most inspiring times in my life, and one that changed me fundamentally. i hope i never forget the lessons i learned from one simple cat that never made it to his 1st birthday. i’m sure tucker will win whatever battles he is fighting…and don’t worry….YOU WILL know if the time ever comes to have to make some tough decisions. tucker will let you know. until then, try not to think of the negative things that some people might say to you. they really mean you no harm, they just don’t understand. but as long as *you* know, then the rest won’t matter. god bless you and i can’t wait to hear about tucker’s recovery…. best regards, connie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 11:26 AM I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" comments. Rene > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.stealth.net!news.tele.dk!195.158.233.21!news1.eb one.net!news.ebone.net!news.ipartners.pl!news.nask.pl!news.prz.rzeszow.pl!a ttmtf!ip.att.net!mercury.cts.com!viola.clari.net!cello.clari.net!clarinews Newsgroups: pl.test Organization: Cancels? Reposts? GtR misses some. HaHa Lines: 1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.11.30.5 Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:35710129
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hey rene, i hope you find out what is wrong with tucker soon. and i wish you both the best of luck. i know firsthand that sometimes, not knowing is harder then knowing, even if it is something bad. trust me when i say to follow your heart 100%. don’t be swayed by outside influences when it comes to tucker’s health and your feelings. i had a sick cat once and spent money i did not have to try to make him well. no one, not even my husband at the time, understood my devotion to "a cat". but sadly, for him (the husband) and others, they also didn’t know the devotion that this cat had to me. the lengths *he* went to to sacrifice himself for me and our family. his illness was one of the most difficult times in my entire life. and as hard as it was, it was also one of the most inspiring times in my life, and one that changed me fundamentally. i hope i never forget the lessons i learned from one simple cat that never made it to his 1st birthday. i’m sure tucker will win whatever battles he is fighting…and don’t worry….YOU WILL know if the time ever comes to have to make some tough decisions. tucker will let you know. until then, try not to think of the negative things that some people might say to you. they really mean you no harm, they just don’t understand. but as long as *you* know, then the rest won’t matter. god bless you and i can’t wait to hear about tucker’s recovery…. best regards, connie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 11:26 AM I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" comments. Rene > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen
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Rene, I am sorry to hear that Tucker is not feeling well. Don’t listen to your parents. It’s your money and it your right to choose how to spend it, and your right to spend it on things that are important to you. Tucker is very important and precious to you and you are taking good care of him, when he is feeling better you will know that it was worth it. I will continute to keep Tucker in my thoughts, please keep us posted. Sharon
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You are a sweetheart! It’s so nice to read the thoughtful messages here. I > will call my parents tonight to air this out, and to talk about vacation > possibilities. This was a bus tour the three of us were signed up for, and > they talked about helping me pay part of it. I’ll see what happens. I > haven’t cancelled it yet. > The odd thing is that they have pets too, so I would have thought they would > understand. They have three dogs and my childhood cat there. Last > Thanksgiving their Shih Tzu died of cancer, and I was there for them. I > thought maybe they would return the favor. You’re right; maybe I can tell > them what you said about not discussing the money aspect with them. I think > everyone has their views and priorities. I prefer to let the a/c go in my > car and help my cat, for instance, but my dad would rather fix the a/c and > see if the pet gets by. > Thanks for listening. Everything has really piled up on me lately, and I > just need to "talk." > Rene > I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not > live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can > air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant > well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just > wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on > him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to > your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would > totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts > and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not > your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is > what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to > work, but cats get you through life. > Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you > were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the > ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like > seeing anyone feel so bad. > Karen >> I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). > I’m >> doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m >> "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, >> but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two > weeks >> I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of >> thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" >> comments. >> Rene >> > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, > and >> > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just > say >> > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They > couldn’t >> > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel > very >> > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. >> > Karen
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Rene, I am sorry to hear that Tucker is not feeling well. Don’t listen to your parents. It’s your money and it your right to choose how to spend it, and your right to spend it on things that are important to you. Tucker is very important and precious to you and you are taking good care of him, when he is feeling better you will know that it was worth it. I will continute to keep Tucker in my thoughts, please keep us posted. Sharon
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You are a sweetheart! It’s so nice to read the thoughtful messages here. I > will call my parents tonight to air this out, and to talk about vacation > possibilities. This was a bus tour the three of us were signed up for, and > they talked about helping me pay part of it. I’ll see what happens. I > haven’t cancelled it yet. > The odd thing is that they have pets too, so I would have thought they would > understand. They have three dogs and my childhood cat there. Last > Thanksgiving their Shih Tzu died of cancer, and I was there for them. I > thought maybe they would return the favor. You’re right; maybe I can tell > them what you said about not discussing the money aspect with them. I think > everyone has their views and priorities. I prefer to let the a/c go in my > car and help my cat, for instance, but my dad would rather fix the a/c and > see if the pet gets by. > Thanks for listening. Everything has really piled up on me lately, and I > just need to "talk." > Rene > I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not > live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can > air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant > well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just > wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on > him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to > your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would > totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts > and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not > your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is > what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to > work, but cats get you through life. > Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you > were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the > ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like > seeing anyone feel so bad. > Karen >> I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). > I’m >> doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m >> "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, >> but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two > weeks >> I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of >> thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" >> comments. >> Rene >> > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, > and >> > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just > say >> > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They > couldn’t >> > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel > very >> > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. >> > Karen
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Before everything had happened, he was eating Nutro Max Light dry and the > Nutro Gourmet Classics canned. I had been force-feeding the canned GC puree, > but switched to the Fancy Feast and some Nutro GC after his last trip to the > vet (Thursday). > his regular vet). She thinks about what I was thinking–that the antibiotics > may be making his stomach upset. She wants me to stop them, but continue > with the Cosequin tomorrow morning, and see if his appetite returns. I also > need to get a urine sample tonight and bring that in tomorrow. If his > appetite does not return by tomorrow evening, I need to bring him in. If it > improves, I’ll bring him in on Thursday for bloodwork. > Another interesting thing: she does not want him drinking tap water, only > distilled and if he won’t drink that, spring water. I seem to remember a > discussion here about tap water causing some problems, but I can’t remember > what they were. > I hope things improve, and that I don’t come home to vomit-covered carpet > tonight. Unfortunately, the vet tech told me to pill him this morning. . . > I just want this to _work_. > Rene
This may sound odd, but did your vet thoroughly examine his nasal passages? Cats appetites are stimulated by smell much more than by taste. They have only 476 taste buds compared to our >9000 but their olfactory bulb contains 15 million more cells than ours. If his sense of smell is impaired (blockage, polyp, damage) his appetite would certainly be affected. Try heating up his food close to body temperature (~95*). Heated food is more aromatic and may stimulate his appetite. I’m running out of possibilities. :(. Good luck. Phil
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You are a sweetheart! It’s so nice to read the thoughtful messages here. I will call my parents tonight to air this out, and to talk about vacation possibilities. This was a bus tour the three of us were signed up for, and they talked about helping me pay part of it. I’ll see what happens. I haven’t cancelled it yet. The odd thing is that they have pets too, so I would have thought they would understand. They have three dogs and my childhood cat there. Last Thanksgiving their Shih Tzu died of cancer, and I was there for them. I thought maybe they would return the favor. You’re right; maybe I can tell them what you said about not discussing the money aspect with them. I think everyone has their views and priorities. I prefer to let the a/c go in my car and help my cat, for instance, but my dad would rather fix the a/c and see if the pet gets by. Thanks for listening. Everything has really piled up on me lately, and I just need to "talk." Rene – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not > live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can > air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant > well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just > wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on > him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to > your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would > totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts > and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not > your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is > what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to > work, but cats get you through life. > Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you > were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the > ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like > seeing anyone feel so bad. > Karen > I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). > I’m > doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m > "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, > but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two > weeks > I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of > thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" > comments. > Rene > > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, > and > > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just > say > > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They > couldn’t > > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel > very > > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > > Karen
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I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" comments. Rene – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen
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I know. They probably just don’t realize how hurtful it was. He does not live with them, so they do not have the attachment you do. I hope you can air it out with them and not let it loom. You know, like, "I know you meant well, but that made me feel worse. I hope you can understand that I just wanted a sounding board. If it upsets you that I am spending the money on him, I won’t discuss it with you." (After all, you can discuss it with us to your hearts content You know, if your car had broken down, they would totally understand needing to spend $500 (or X amount) on a bunch of parts and labor and that it might affect your plans for a vacation, so, why not your cat? Maybe if you put it to them that way (if the vacation thing is what is bothering them), they would see the perpective. Cars get you to work, but cats get you through life. Maybe something else can be done about a vacation in the fall if what you were planning is out of reach. There are *always* options. Sometimes not the ones we want the most, but there is something to be done. I just don’t like seeing anyone feel so bad. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know they mean well, but it really hurt my feelings (and still does). I’m > doing the best I possibly can to get him better, and they think I’m > "wasting" my money by spending this much. I tried not to take it to heart, > but they really stabbed me during a very emotional time. The past two weeks > I’ve been a wreck–stressed out, crying a lot, not sleeping. This sort of > thing doesn’t help me very much. I need _support_, not "put him down" > comments. > Rene > You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and > they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say > the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t > think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very > helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. > Karen
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>Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I >want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is >getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned >in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from >the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after >they told me this.
I am so sorry to hear about your kitty, and what your parents said.
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You know, Rene, it’s kind of funny about parents. They really mean well, and they want your pain to go away so bad, that sometimes they really just say the first thing they think of and I’m sure that’s all it was. They couldn’t think of anything else to help you and if they are distant they feel very helpless. I really hope you don’t take what they told you to heart. Karen
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is > out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Some types of medications are absorbed better and/or produce less (or none) > adverse reactions when taken with food. Others should not be taken with > food. Some medications produce adverse reactions when taken with other > medications, this is called "Drug Interactions". Ask your vet to look up > the drug interaction warnings for the medications Tucker is taking. > However, even if none are listed, its still possible for a combination of > drugs, or just to many drugs to cause vomiting. Try spacing the dosing > schedule. > I think you may be on to something by "related to the Fancy Feast". Because > he ate a different food and didn’t vomit, he may have an > adversion/intolerance to one or more of the ingredients in Fancy Feast. Its > not unusual for a cat to develop an adversion/intolerance to a food he’s > been eating for awhile. An adversion/intolerance to a food or ingredient > is not the same as a food allergy. An allergy has an immunologic basis, an > intolerance/adversion does not have an immunologic basis. IOW, no immune > response. > You may want to try a food that contains no chemical preservatives or dyes > or ambigious by-products (e.g., Nutro Natural Choice, Max Cat) or if he > needs a nutrient dense food, Nutro Natural Choice Kitten or Max Cat Kitten > food. The only other alternatives are a food elimination trial or a novel > protein diet. However, in his current nutritional state, I would try Nutro > Kitten food, first. > Good luck. > Phil. > —
Before everything had happened, he was eating Nutro Max Light dry and the Nutro Gourmet Classics canned. I had been force-feeding the canned GC puree, but switched to the Fancy Feast and some Nutro GC after his last trip to the vet (Thursday). his regular vet). She thinks about what I was thinking–that the antibiotics may be making his stomach upset. She wants me to stop them, but continue with the Cosequin tomorrow morning, and see if his appetite returns. I also need to get a urine sample tonight and bring that in tomorrow. If his appetite does not return by tomorrow evening, I need to bring him in. If it improves, I’ll bring him in on Thursday for bloodwork. Another interesting thing: she does not want him drinking tap water, only distilled and if he won’t drink that, spring water. I seem to remember a discussion here about tap water causing some problems, but I can’t remember what they were. I hope things improve, and that I don’t come home to vomit-covered carpet tonight. Unfortunately, the vet tech told me to pill him this morning. . . I just want this to _work_. Rene
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This probably isn’t much help or a relevant comparison but I hope it will ease some of your panic. I know that for myself, medications often make me sick to my stomach, especially when I"ve been sick and am already weak. I often have to take compazine (sp?) just so I can take the meds I need. I wonder if there is an equivalent stomach-settling medication for cats (like compazine) that would help Tucker tolerate the other meds? Anna
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> Hi again,
> the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up?
Some types of medications are absorbed better and/or produce less (or none) adverse reactions when taken with food. Others should not be taken with food. Some medications produce adverse reactions when taken with other medications, this is called "Drug Interactions". Ask your vet to look up the drug interaction warnings for the medications Tucker is taking. However, even if none are listed, its still possible for a combination of drugs, or just to many drugs to cause vomiting. Try spacing the dosing schedule. I think you may be on to something by "related to the Fancy Feast". Because he ate a different food and didn’t vomit, he may have an adversion/intolerance to one or more of the ingredients in Fancy Feast. Its not unusual for a cat to develop an adversion/intolerance to a food he’s been eating for awhile. An adversion/intolerance to a food or ingredient is not the same as a food allergy. An allergy has an immunologic basis, an intolerance/adversion does not have an immunologic basis. IOW, no immune response. You may want to try a food that contains no chemical preservatives or dyes or ambigious by-products (e.g., Nutro Natural Choice, Max Cat) or if he needs a nutrient dense food, Nutro Natural Choice Kitten or Max Cat Kitten food. The only other alternatives are a food elimination trial or a novel protein diet. However, in his current nutritional state, I would try Nutro Kitten food, first. Good luck. Phil. — "Cat eyes seem a bridge to a world beyond the one we know" — Lynn Hollyn Feline Healthcare – http://maxshouse.com
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OOoooo. Don’t let them talk you into that!!! I imagine a lot of pills on an empty stomach very well could make him throw up! And maybe the food is too rich. Look, cats can get into a REAL catch-22 situation in regards to vomiting. I went through this with Sugar last November. She worked herself into a inflamed bowel over what was probably JUST a hairball and a sensitive stomach. It may take a while to get his stomach back in line. I hate it when people don’t understand you don’t just abandon animals to "the arms of Morpheus" becuase they are taking a while to get better. I’m sure they are just worried about your finances, but don’t let them plant that idea in your head over just that aspect. The tests sound very good, but poor baby has been through the ringer. Hang in there. Karen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday > and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. > They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him > and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. > Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he > was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the > newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile > vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). > I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency > nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I > want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is > getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned > in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from > the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after > they told me this. > I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. > Rene
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my thoughts and best wishes are with you. sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi again, > I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday > and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. > They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him > and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. > Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he > was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the > newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile > vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). > I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency > nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I > want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is > getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned > in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from > the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after > they told me this. > I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. > Rene
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again, > I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday > and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. > They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him > and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. > Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he > was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the > newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile > vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). > I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency > nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and > the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so > many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. > I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out > today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change > his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the > e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned > a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could > so many pills make him throw up? > Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I > want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is > getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned > in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from > the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after > they told me this. > I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. > Rene
Rene — I’m so sorry for the stress you’re going through — please know that we are sending mega purrs, crossed paws, and the very best of wishes to you and Tucker for his condition to improve! I would think that so many pills for a kitty whose stomach is already sensitive would be the problem here, although I’m not the vet! As for putting him down, I wouldn’t listen to your parents, listen to your heart as you know Tucker better than anyone and if and when it is time, you will know it. As far as thin pocketbooks go, we have experienced that also and though I’m sure you know this, it is worth every cent to help your friend. The very best of luck to you and to Tucker from all of us, Christine, Omar, Midnight & Shetra
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Hi again, I wish I had better news to report, but unfortunately, I don’t. On Friday and Saturday, Tucker still wasn’t eating on his own, so I called the vet. They recommended either force-feeding him myself, or they could kennel him and do it. I opted to keep him home, since he hates being there. Overall, he was sleeping much more than usual. Sunday afternoon, I saw he was licking his chops, and he ran to the bedroom. I grabbed a piece of the newspaper because I knew he was going to throw up. OMG! He was projectile vomiting like nothing I’ve ever seen-it was scary, (not to mention a mess). I put him in the bathroom, cleaned up a bit, and dashed off to the emergency nothing wrong with his organs, his bladder infection is getting better, and the vomiting, but thought it was related to the Fancy Feast, or getting so many pills on an empty/nearly empty stomach. I took him home and already have a call into the vets. My regular vet is out today, so I have to wait for the part-time vet to come in. They may change his medications. The encouraging thing is that when I came home from the e-vets, he dashed to the food bowl and ate some dry and some of the canned a/d I had picked up at the e-vets. And he didn’t throw up all night. Could so many pills make him throw up? Again, I’m waiting for results. I’m really getting stressed out by this–I want to help him but nothing seems to be improving. And my pocketbook is getting very thin. I will probably have to cancel a vacation I had planned in October with my parents. And to make it worse, I called my parents from the e-vets and they were telling me to put him down! I cried so much after they told me this. I’m starting to babble now, so I’ll stop here. Rene
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