Sheba Inu
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I am a new Shiba owner, but have been doing breed research for about a year. I have had my little boy for almost 2 months. I absolutely love him, but they are a very unique breed. I would not recommend a Shiba as a playmate for a Chihuahua or any other small, fragile dog. Shibas play rough and are very strong and tough for their size. My 80 pound Collie mix has trouble keeping up with the 27 pound Shiba! Shibas get along best with other sturdy dogs who like to rough-house. They are very independant dogs and need firm training. Never let a Shiba get away with anything. If you tell your shiba to "sit" make sure you make him sit. If a Shiba doesn’t listen to a command, never say "Eh, I’ll try again later." Make sure he does what you tell him whether he wants to or not. Shibas are extremely intelligent dogs and can train you alot quicker than you can train them if you let him. If you are a good, firm trainer you can teach this intelligent breed many things. My Yoshi knows most of the basic commands (still working on "come" which is probably the hardest thing to teach a Shiba) and he also knows how to jump through a hoop, run through a tunnel, and crawl on the ground. NEVER let your shiba off leash in an un-fenced area!!!! They are runners, and are terrible with the "come" command. This is not a breed you can let lose on the beach or while hiking in the mountains. Keep a leash on at all times unless in an enclosed area. They are not big barkers. They will make funny noises while playing but they do not bark at everyone walking past the house, or at cars driving by, etc. They are a clean breed and most Shiba people I know of have had puppies housebroken in a week or less! Shibas generally don’t get along with other dogs of the same sex. Yoshi fortunately does, but it’s something you have to make sure of before getting one. There are exceptions to every rule. If you want a Shiba, consider adopting an adult through breed rescue. That’s what I did and I was able to chose one that fit what I was looking for in a dog. Maybe you can find one who was raised with small dogs and knows not to play so rough with your Chihuahua. Good luck with your Shiba if you decide to get one. Let me know if you have any more questions. Tara
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anyone have these dogs? Was wondering about their disposition and > whether they would get along with a chihuahua. Are they good watch > dogs? Do they bark alot? > Joanne
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Joanne, My very good friends have one. Her name is Lucy. Lucy-girl is a sweety, but she was VERY hard to train (and still pees occasionally in the house at almost 5 years of age). She’s not very good with children, and she nips at folks. Now it could be that due to my friends both working full time, Lucy didn’t get the early attention she needed. But for the price they paid, I would have picked another breed. JMO. — *Cheers* ~Just Me~ Please (remove your shoes) before replying. "My life has no purpose, no direction, no aim, and yet I am happy. I can’t figure it out. What am I doing right?" ~Charles M. Schulz
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks for the info. Still would like to hear from people who own. > Read some articles on them already. Yes, I meant Shiba. Had a dog > named Sheba so get confused. > Joanne
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My best friend owns a Shiba Inu. Bailey is now 4 years old. He is best friends with my Rottie, but he doesn’t like other dogs. He also can be very stubborn and tends to do what he wants. He is very protective of my friend and has been known to nip at people he doesn’t like. He has been socialized but definately could have used some obedience training. I met both of his parents and his dad (who is a show dog) has the same attitude that Bailey has. He is very cute and very sweet, but if you decide to get one please do your reseach and go through a good breeder. I highly reccommend socialization and training classses. Good luck!
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Anyone have these dogs? Was wondering about their disposition and whether they would get along with a chihuahua. Are they good watch dogs? Do they bark alot? Joanne
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> Anyone have these dogs? Was wondering about their disposition and > whether they would get along with a chihuahua. Are they good watch > dogs? Do they bark alot?
It probably depends on the Chi and the individual Shiba Inu (note spelling). Shibas, if I’m not mistaken, are very independant little dogs, and though very bright can be difficult to train. Not big barkers as far as I know, and I believe they’re great at *watching* but they’re not necessarily guard dogs. I’ve heard they are very similar to my breed – You’ll be alerted to trespassers (mine more by all the dogs suddenly crowding at the front door &/or window) – but they will not necessarily try to stop an intruder. They’d be too little anyway. — — Andrea Stone Saorsa Basenjis "The average dog is a nicer person than the average person." — Andrew A. Rooney
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In "Paws to Consider" by B. Kilcommons, Shibas are said to be "independent" and may "scream when thwarted…" Apparently they do vocalize, though perhaps not when desired. If you haven’t read the book, one of many which can be helpful before choosing a breed, you might pick one up or check it out at the library. Also check out a dog show. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anyone have these dogs? Was wondering about their disposition and > whether they would get along with a chihuahua. Are they good watch > dogs? Do they bark alot? > It probably depends on the Chi and the individual Shiba Inu (note spelling). > Shibas, if I’m not mistaken, are very independant little dogs, and though > very bright can be difficult to train. Not big barkers as far as I know, and > I believe they’re great at *watching* but they’re not necessarily guard > dogs. > I’ve heard they are very similar to my breed – You’ll be alerted to > trespassers (mine more by all the dogs suddenly crowding at the front door > &/or window) – but they will not necessarily try to stop an intruder. They’d > be too little anyway. > — > — > Andrea Stone > Saorsa Basenjis > "The average dog is a nicer person than the average person." > — Andrew A. Rooney
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Thanks for the info. Still would like to hear from people who own. Read some articles on them already. Yes, I meant Shiba. Had a dog named Sheba so get confused. Joanne
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> Thanks for the info. Still would like to hear from people who own. > Read some articles on them already. Yes, I meant Shiba. Had a dog > named Sheba so get confused. > Joanne
Find out if there are going to be in "Shiba Inu" shows in your area and then go and watch and talk with owners. I have heard they are a bit hard to train. I have thought of getting a Shiba in the future. Good luck, Gwen
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Joanne, i breed Samoyeds in the U.K and my sister breeds Shiba Inu, here is a snippet of info about the breed and i hope this helps in your decision to home one.The Shiba Inu is a small dog {Shiba Inu being the Japanese translation for small dog} but the charecterisrics are more of that its a big dog trapped in a small body! they love rough and tumble games so have been known to be a little too rough with smaller dogs. they are also extremely cat-like and unusually quiet dogs {though they can almost scream if left too long on there own}and also they are excellent escape artists so gardens need to be totally secure and checked regularly.Once trained a Shiba Inu will make a loveing family member great with children and othe dogs{they dont like cats though,although theres the exception}and they CAN also make excellent guard dogs,but there bark is worse than there bite! Theres a great site that tell you about our breeds the address is http://www.skiandu.com hope this helps Regards Jessie of Snowallen Samoyeds
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anyone have these dogs? Was wondering about their disposition and > whether they would get along with a chihuahua. Are they good watch > dogs? Do they bark alot? > Joanne
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I understand that they’re much like Akitas, just smaller. We had an Akita for 14 yrs, and if it wasn’t for the hair, that’s all I’d have. She was very quiet, very dignified, very loyal to her owners. The only time I heard her growl in 14 yrs. was when somebody pushed my daughter down. They are very very independent dogs, especially as they get older, so it is very important to train them well. mm
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Joanne, i breed Samoyeds in the U.K and my sister breeds Shiba Inu, here is > a snippet of info about the breed and i hope this helps in your decision to > home one.The Shiba Inu is a small dog {Shiba Inu being the Japanese > translation for small dog} but the charecterisrics are more of that its a > big dog trapped in a small body! they love rough and tumble games so have > been known to be a little too rough with smaller dogs. they are also > extremely cat-like and unusually quiet dogs {though they can almost scream > if left too long on there own}and also they are excellent escape artists so > gardens need to be totally secure and checked regularly.Once trained a Shiba > Inu will make a loveing family member great with children and othe dogs{they > dont like cats though,although theres the exception}and they CAN also make > excellent guard dogs,but there bark is worse than there bite! Theres a great > site that tell you about our breeds the address is http://www.skiandu.com > hope this helps > Regards > Jessie of Snowallen Samoyeds > Anyone have these dogs? Was wondering about their disposition and > whether they would get along with a chihuahua. Are they good watch > dogs? Do they bark alot? > Joanne
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> > Has anyone mentioned the "Shiba scream" to you yet? >> When I accidently stepped on my shiba’s foot he screamed loud enough to make >> my ears bleed. > After nearly 10 years of owning "Kenji", he’s finally stopped that > blood curdling scream when I have his nails clipped. Jeez, he’s > getting his nails clipped, not being skinned alive!
Other than the foot incident, I’m one of the lucky people who has a shiba that doesn’t scream. In fact, it’s rare that he makes any noise other than his Snorks and Horks. He occasionally lets out a single bark if he sees someone pass his backyard, and he’ll bark like crazy at my iguana if she’s in the livingroom. > Can anyone enlighten me or suggest another > breed of dog that is approximately 20 pounds, ears stand up, and tail stands > up or curls? > Well, there’s the Basenji, a breed that many folks have asked if my Shibas > were. But if you get a Basenji, you won’t get to accumulate the bags of dog > fur that I’ve been saving over the years for my next cardigan sweater. 8^)
Basenjis have the same kind of independence as a shiba. I like to call them "shiba lite" because they don’t have lovely fluffy wiry fur like the shibas, but otherwise they act and look pretty much the same from what I’ve seen. > Some Shibas are aloof to people they don’t know. My male will sniff and > allow to be petted, but then he slowly wanders off to sniff around. > It’s probably important that he’s a "Nisei" Shiba .. his parents were > imports from Japan. The Japanese bred dogs appear to be more aloof > and stoic. They’re not so demonstrative with their emotions.
That makes a lot of sense. I would think that the Japanese culture as a whole is aloof and conservatives and household dogs would be bred to fit this mold. > My female, on the other hand, comes from American stock. She’s a real > sweetie who loves to be petted by anyone. If you stop petting her, > she’ll paw at you to keep going. And she has that cute Shiba "snorking" > sound too.
Bushido is a lick hound. He gets this really focused cross-eyed look as he holds your head down and licks your eyes and ears. Even when you get up to make him stop he’ll hold on and keep licking. He also likes to lick barefeet, much to the consternation of one of my sandal-clad cow-orkers. > And my dogs do play, and play hard. With each other, with me, with > their toys. Then they stop after maybe 10 min., and are ready for a > nap. (could be my Shibas are 10 and 8 years old too).
Wow. A napping shiba. Bushido isn’t even six months old yet, so he still has a lot of energy to burn. Oops, he’s clamoring for his lunchtime walk as I type. Marianne — http://www.dewlap.com/shiba
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> Has anyone mentioned the "Shiba scream" to you yet? > When I accidently stepped on my shiba’s foot he screamed loud enough to make > my ears bleed.
After nearly 10 years of owning "Kenji", he’s finally stopped that blood curdling scream when I have his nails clipped. Jeez, he’s getting his nails clipped, not being skinned alive! > Can anyone enlighten me or suggest another > breed of dog that is approximately 20 pounds, ears stand up, and tail stands > up or curls?
Well, there’s the Basenji, a breed that many folks have asked if my Shibas were. But if you get a Basenji, you won’t get to accumulate the bags of dog fur that I’ve been saving over the years for my next cardigan sweater. 8^) > I might get flamed for this but Shiba-ken bore me > silly. They seem very cold, and don’t like to be > petted by strangers.
Some Shibas are aloof to people they don’t know. My male will sniff and allow to be petted, but then he slowly wanders off to sniff around. It’s probably important that he’s a "Nisei" Shiba .. his parents were imports from Japan. The Japanese bred dogs appear to be more aloof and stoic. They’re not so demonstrative with their emotions. My female, on the other hand, comes from American stock. She’s a real sweetie who loves to be petted by anyone. If you stop petting her, she’ll paw at you to keep going. And she has that cute Shiba "snorking" sound too. And my dogs do play, and play hard. With each other, with me, with their toys. Then they stop after maybe 10 min., and are ready for a nap. (could be my Shibas are 10 and 8 years old too). Red — Regards, Red Young
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I’m not gonna be the one to do it, as it is not my place. But *look out*! I would have to say there are a few HRRRMMMPPPHHHHH’s headed your way! (Yikes!) Bugsbunny
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> I am not very knowledgeable about dogs and I am only > lurking in this group to try to pick up some info. > I_do_live in Japan, though, and I see quite a few > Shiba-ken. I don’t know if the spelling "Sheba" > or the ending "Inu" have been standardized in the > US or not,
We call them Shiba Inu here. > I might get flamed for this but Shiba-ken bore me > silly. They seem very cold, and don’t like to be > petted by strangers.
That isn’t true of all shibas. I would be willing to bet you’d love my little guy. During walks, he’ll run up to total strangers with tail wagging furiously, and ears back in a full shiba grin. He will only jump away from you if he wants to play or if he doesn’t quite trust you. If a stranger tries to pet > them, they will either snap at him,
I have yet to meet a shiba who has ever snapped at me. The closest I’ve come to this is when my little guy was teething and he had to chew on anything within reach of his jaws. He has never snapped at anyone out of maliciousness. Since I take him to work with me every day, he has to be well trained and well behaved, and everyone in the office loves him — even the guy who is terrified of other dogs. or (more > commonly) ignore him. They don’t like to play, > either. They just… exist!
Not true. I play fetch with Bushido, run around with him, watch him try to swim in the creek by my office (even though he has trouble with the "getting wet" part of swimming), take him out to dog parks and enjoy watching him wrestle and run with bigger dogs, play tug with him, play "paws" (grabbing his paws while he tries to "grab" my hands at the same time), throw a frisbee for him, wrestle with him and many other games. In fact, this little guy is so happy to be alive that he will wake up in the mornings and immediately jump all over me to wake me up, grinning the whole time while making his little shiba "hork" noises (I think it’s a laugh). > As I said, I don’t know about dogs and I’m sure > someone will set me straight on my views. I am > just telling you what I have observed in my 12 > years in Japan.
The Japanese standard probably calls for a more aloof and conservative dog. As I have only met Shibas born and raised in the US, I don’t really know what dogs in Japan are like. I do know that Shibas are far from boring. In fact the breeder I got mine from says that they’re more fun to watch than tv or movies at the theater. I would have to agree. My little guy constantly makes me laugh because he’s quite a little character. Marianne — http://www.dewlap.com/shiba
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Some friends of mine bought a Sheba two summers ago. "Lucy" was the cutest pup. But, she turned very aggressive, and IMO, was not trained properly to "listen" to commands. The training was also probably the reason for her lack of house breaking habits, as well as "nipping" *anyone* who walked by her (as she got older). I recently saw her, and she seemed to have calmed down quite a bit. I think after your beloved Mandingo, you could handle just about any little junior "bear". Oh, and Lucy definitely had the perky ears and curly (big time curly Q) tail!! Bugsbunny
. >My dependant(dog) Mandingo died
September 1, 1998. He was a >Husky-Rottweiler mix of 68 pounds. It
was a tragedy for me. I can no >longer go on without that
companionship. I am not looking to replace him >because no other dog can ever live up
to him. He was my first dependant. >I am now looking for a small dog. One
that I can keep in my condo. I >recently came in contact with a Sheba
Inu that I liked but there were 3 >problems. It was a female, the cost
was $500, and I have never heard of >this breed of dog. I definitely want a
male dog(I am a female and I don’t >need another attitude to add to mine.
I need a male to submit to me and >appreciate my care for him.) Can
anyone enlighten me or suggest another >breed of dog that is approximately 20
pounds, ears stand up, and tail stands >up or curls? Having experience with a
big active dog, I will need something >that is active but will be mature also.
Cute is definitely a trait that I >am looking for. >My Mandingo, better known as "Bouchie"
(B.Mandingo), had the face and hair >as huskie. However, his snout was more
of a rottweiler. His color was >beige most of the time, but because he
was mixed with the white hair of >huskie on his tommy and some parts of
his legs and tail; the black hair of >the rottweiler was really dominant.
The two colors mixed to become beige to >brown during the summer months or hot
days here in florida and he was white >to beige during the winter or so called
winter. He was a very beautiful >dog. >His attitude was unbelievable. He was
friendly to those that he knew. If >he didn’t know you, he would be
friendly just as long as you didn’t move >your hands very fast or reached to
touch him. In order to touch him, he >would have to come to you first,
without you trying to touch him at all. If >rubbed up against you or sniffed, he
would sit down or lay next to your >feet. You would still have to reach
with care. For precautionary measures, >I would hold him by the collar and
sometimes put my hand in his mouth to be >sure that he wasn’t scared. He was
very protective of himself. Even after >all that, he loved kids. However, he
never realized how big he was. If he >made a baby or toddler cry because he
was too rough, he would sometimes get >depressed and run away from them and
sometimes cry himself. Oh how I will – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->always love him. >Thanks for listening! >Shun
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Hi Billy, I’ve not been to this ng for a few days, and so I haven’t read all of the messages, but this thread caught my eye. Yes, here in the US, Shibas are referred to as Shiba Inu, or just plain Shiba. True, the correct translation from kanji would be Shiba Ken (Shiba = "variety" & Ken = breed specific; Inu = generic "dog"), but the US enthusiasts and the American Kennel Club opted to embrace Inu instead of Ken. The description you have offered for the Shiba is probably quite correct for their native Japan. I have seen this reaction to people with an alarming frequency with the Shibas imported to the US from Japan. The culture and rearing of puppies in Japan is so vastly different than it is here in the States, that imported dogs don’t understand what we Americans expect. If I am correct, the women in Japan have little or no role in breeding, raising and maintaining the dogs. It is, in every sense, a man’s world, and a man’s hobby. Men are dog breeders, not women; men are dog handlers, not women; and there is little or no human interaction with the dogs. No offense to any men reading this, but women (historically) tend to be more nurturing than men – I guess it’s the "maternal" thing. As a result, the dogs have no CLUE how to deal with people. They don’t know HOW to play, they don’t know that it is unacceptable to snap or bite. According to the AKC (and NIPPO) breed standard, the Shiba should exhibit "a spirited boldness, a good nature and an unaffected forthrightness which together yield dignity and natural beauty". NIPPO believes that Shibas in this country are too friendly. They should not, by their ancient heritage of quiet dignity and aloof manner, openly accept strangers, but should assess all who approach and bestow their attention on only those most worthy. Remember, the Shiba was a live game hunter, used in packs to hunt small game and wild boar. A dog with this capability should exhude confidence and dignity. What dignity is there in flopping over on your back for a belly sc ratch? Now, mind you, all of my Shibas are registered Therapy dogs, and visit a Nursing Home 1-2 times each week. I don’t particularly like the temperament of the Import Shibas, and know of several breeders here in the US who have gone to great lengths to TEACH their Shibas how to accept strangers and play with toys. My Shibas, as are most here in the US, are taught early on that the big world is a pretty neat place to be. Suzanne Macre Snowood Shibas, home of multiple Am/Can CH Shibas (all of whom suffer indignities DAILY for a good belly scratch) See our dogs at: http://members.aol.com/shibasusa/index14.com http://members.aol.com/shibasusa/index15.com (bottom of page) http://members.aol.com/shibalist/macre.htm http://members.aol.com/Lynbir1/oscar.htm – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I am not very knowledgeable about dogs and I am only >lurking in this group to try to pick up some info. >I_do_live in Japan, though, and I see quite a few >Shiba-ken. I don’t know if the spelling "Sheba" >or the ending "Inu" have been standardized in the >US or not, but the true spelling should be "Shiba" >and the ending is "ken." Ken and Inu are both >written with the same Kanji Character, meaning "dog," >but when tagged on the end of a breed name, it is >read "ken." (i.e. Akita-ken, Shiba-ken) >I might get flamed for this but Shiba-ken bore me >silly. They seem very cold, and don’t like to be >petted by strangers. If a stranger tries to pet >them, they will either snap at him, or (more >commonly) ignore him. They don’t like to play, >either. They just… exist! >As I said, I don’t know about dogs and I’m sure >someone will set me straight on my views. I am >just telling you what I have observed in my 12 >years in Japan. >You can find information on the Shiba-ken at: >http://www.akc.org/shibainu.htm >BWW
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> My dependant(dog) Mandingo died September 1, 1998. He was a > Husky-Rottweiler mix of 68 pounds. It was a tragedy for me. I can no > longer go on without that companionship. I am not looking to replace him > because no other dog can ever live up to him. He was my first dependant. > I am now looking for a small dog. One that I can keep in my condo. I > recently came in contact with a Sheba Inu that I liked but there were 3 > problems. It was a female, the cost was $500, and I have never heard of > this breed of dog. I definitely want a male dog(I am a female and I don’t > need another attitude to add to mine. I need a male to submit to me and > appreciate my care for him.) Can anyone enlighten me or suggest another > breed of dog that is approximately 20 pounds, ears stand up, and tail stands > up or curls?
Hi there. The Shiba Inu is a great little dog, but you should really do a bit of research on the breed before you decide this is the right dog for you. I have a male Shiba, now almost six months old. Don’t go around with the misconception that a male shiba will automatically submit to you, because they don’t. They are a primitive breed, which makes them very independent with a very strong prey drive. If you’d like to know more about living with a shiba, please read my shiba primer, which is linked to a breeder’s page on living with the shiba (for another point of view), and a page I wrote on why you should not walk a shiba off-leash. Please go to http://www.dewlap.com/shiba/shibaprime.html . Although I love this breed and will get another one time and room permitting, they do have problems and if you aren’t prepared for a shiba you will be bitterly disappointed. Marianne — http://www.dewlap.com/shiba
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I am not very knowledgeable about dogs and I am only lurking in this group to try to pick up some info. I_do_live in Japan, though, and I see quite a few Shiba-ken. I don’t know if the spelling "Sheba" or the ending "Inu" have been standardized in the US or not, but the true spelling should be "Shiba" and the ending is "ken." Ken and Inu are both written with the same Kanji Character, meaning "dog," but when tagged on the end of a breed name, it is read "ken." (i.e. Akita-ken, Shiba-ken) I might get flamed for this but Shiba-ken bore me silly. They seem very cold, and don’t like to be petted by strangers. If a stranger tries to pet them, they will either snap at him, or (more commonly) ignore him. They don’t like to play, either. They just… exist! As I said, I don’t know about dogs and I’m sure someone will set me straight on my views. I am just telling you what I have observed in my 12 years in Japan. You can find information on the Shiba-ken at: http://www.akc.org/shibainu.htm BWW – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >My dependant(dog) Mandingo died September 1, 1998. He was a >Husky-Rottweiler mix of 68 pounds. It was a tragedy for me. I can no >longer go on without that companionship. I am not looking to replace him >because no other dog can ever live up to him. He was my first dependant. >I am now looking for a small dog. One that I can keep in my condo. I >recently came in contact with a Sheba Inu that I liked but there were 3 >problems. It was a female, the cost was $500, and I have never heard of >this breed of dog. I definitely want a male dog(I am a female and I don’t >need another attitude to add to mine. I need a male to submit to me and >appreciate my care for him.) Can anyone enlighten me or suggest another >breed of dog that is approximately 20 pounds, ears stand up, and tail stands >up or curls? Having experience with a big active dog, I will need something >that is active but will be mature also. Cute is definitely a trait that I >am looking for. >My Mandingo, better known as "Bouchie" (B.Mandingo), had the face and hair >as huskie. However, his snout was more of a rottweiler. His color was >beige most of the time, but because he was mixed with the white hair of >huskie on his tommy and some parts of his legs and tail; the black hair of >the rottweiler was really dominant. The two colors mixed to become beige to >brown during the summer months or hot days here in florida and he was white >to beige during the winter or so called winter. He was a very beautiful >dog. >His attitude was unbelievable. He was friendly to those that he knew. If >he didn’t know you, he would be friendly just as long as you didn’t move >your hands very fast or reached to touch him. In order to touch him, he >would have to come to you first, without you trying to touch him at all. If >rubbed up against you or sniffed, he would sit down or lay next to your >feet. You would still have to reach with care. For precautionary measures, >I would hold him by the collar and sometimes put my hand in his mouth to be >sure that he wasn’t scared. He was very protective of himself. Even after >all that, he loved kids. However, he never realized how big he was. If he >made a baby or toddler cry because he was too rough, he would sometimes get >depressed and run away from them and sometimes cry himself. Oh how I will >always love him. >Thanks for listening! >Shun
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> Has anyone mentioned the "Shiba scream" to you yet?
Oh yes. I mention that in my shiba primer, and I’m sure it’s listed on several other shiba sites as well. Sounds like Jamie Lee Curtis in the film Halloween. Even a terrified rabbit has trouble breaking the sound barrier the way a shiba can when it screams. When I accidently stepped on my shiba’s foot he screamed loud enough to make my ears bleed. I’m sure someone would have called the police if I hadn’t managed to get him to quiet down a bit. Marianne — http://www.dewlap.com/shiba
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>I am now looking for a small dog. One that I can keep in my condo. I >recently came in contact with a Sheba Inu that I liked but there were 3 >problems. It was a female, the cost was $500, and I have never heard of >this breed of dog. I definitely want a male dog(I am a female and I don’t >need another attitude to add to mine. I need a male to submit to me and >appreciate my care for him.) Can anyone enlighten me or suggest another >breed of dog that is approximately 20 pounds, ears stand up, and tail stands >up or curls? Having experience with a big active dog, I will need something >that is active but will be mature also. Cute is definitely a trait that I >am looking for.
The Shiba Inu is very intelligent, and I’m certain that you’ll find it "appreciatve" of your care. They are loyal, stubborn, escape artists, and truly a beautiful breed. They shed alot, are easily housebroken, generally don’t bark much, can be taught to like kids, cats and other dogs–though some are very same sex agressive. There are several good sites on the web to check out: http://members.aol.com/shibalist/shibainu.htm http://www.oklahoma.net/~nsca A good book would be the Total Shba by Gretchen Haskett A nice Shiba from a good breeder will cost you at least $500. IF you want to pay less, check out a rescue. They usually are only $150-$250. In any event, do your homework before getting a Shiba–or any other breed. Chris Wolff Grey Wolff Shiba Inu http://members.aol.com/ShibaRuled/GryWolff.html Don’t buy from pet shops learn why at: http://mwmbers.aol.com/ShibaRuled/Petshop.html IF you won’t rescue, DON’T breed!
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Some friends of mine bought a Sheba two > summers ago. "Lucy" was the cutest pup. > But, she turned very aggressive, >The shiba can be aggressive toward other dogs. But they are generally not >aggressive toward people. They are more aloof toward strangers and will >sometimes jump just out of reach when you try to pet them. >A people aggressive shiba was inadvertantly trained that way. Puppies like >to nip and chew on extraneous body parts, and if you don’t train them to stop >early on it’s very difficult to get to them stop when they’re older. > and > IMO, was not trained properly to > "listen" to commands. >No. That is a quirk of the breed. They are like teenagers and have >selective hearing. This is why most shibas should never be allowed to run >off leash unless they are in a fenced area they cannot get out of. Even the >best trained shiba will turn a deaf ear when you call it if it wants to stay >outside and play.
I can testify to that. Our shiba is well trained. On the excerise mat he is perfect, but at home he gets very selective with his hearing. One day this winter he pulled the leash from my hand and went on a merry romp with my husband and I trying to lure him back. Even his beloved "Cookie" call had no charm compared to new snowdrifts to be plowed into. It was about five minutes before he came trotting back to get his treat. > The training was > also probably the reason for her lack of > house breaking habits, >Yes, that is a poorly trained dog. Shibas are very easily housebroken. >Bushido was housebroken in three days. But I kept him in a crate when we >weren’t playing with him, and he was taken outside every two hours and >praised lavishly when he’d go potty outside. >A Shiba will usually run in tight little circles when he wants to go outside >to do his business, and if you don’t know to look for that sign when he is a >puppy, he’s going to continue to have accidents in the house.
Not all. Ours dropped his toys by the door. It was a very subtle hint that it was time to go out. Now if I miss the toy drop he comes and puts his nose under my arm and lifts his head. > as well as > "nipping" *anyone* who walked by her (as > she got older). I recently saw her, and > she seemed to have calmed down quite a > bit. >They calm down after a couple of years. The first year and a half with a >shiba puppy is pretty rough. They go through the Terrible Teens, and then >some! They challenge your position in the pack, they don’t always listen to >you, and they will act cute at you when they’re in trouble for doing >something.
I have found that our shiba continues to challenge his position in the pack whenever there is a change in the status quo, for example when my husband goes on a business trip. We have to continuely remind him that he is a dog and therefore the bottom of the house pack. We have a two year old so this is essential. >They are a very sensitive and intelligent dog, and as long as you understand >what the dog is up to and thinking about, you should be fine with a shiba. > I think after your beloved > Mandingo, you could handle just about > any little junior "bear". Oh, and Lucy > definitely had the perky ears and curly > (big time curly Q) tail!! >That’s part of a shiba’s charm.
Has anyone mentioned the "Shiba scream" to you yet? >Marianne >– >http://www.dewlap.com/shiba
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My dependant(dog) Mandingo died September 1, 1998. He was a Husky-Rottweiler mix of 68 pounds. It was a tragedy for me. I can no longer go on without that companionship. I am not looking to replace him because no other dog can ever live up to him. He was my first dependant. I am now looking for a small dog. One that I can keep in my condo. I recently came in contact with a Sheba Inu that I liked but there were 3 problems. It was a female, the cost was $500, and I have never heard of this breed of dog. I definitely want a male dog(I am a female and I don’t need another attitude to add to mine. I need a male to submit to me and appreciate my care for him.) Can anyone enlighten me or suggest another breed of dog that is approximately 20 pounds, ears stand up, and tail stands up or curls? Having experience with a big active dog, I will need something that is active but will be mature also. Cute is definitely a trait that I am looking for. My Mandingo, better known as "Bouchie" (B.Mandingo), had the face and hair as huskie. However, his snout was more of a rottweiler. His color was beige most of the time, but because he was mixed with the white hair of huskie on his tommy and some parts of his legs and tail; the black hair of the rottweiler was really dominant. The two colors mixed to become beige to brown during the summer months or hot days here in florida and he was white to beige during the winter or so called winter. He was a very beautiful dog. His attitude was unbelievable. He was friendly to those that he knew. If he didn’t know you, he would be friendly just as long as you didn’t move your hands very fast or reached to touch him. In order to touch him, he would have to come to you first, without you trying to touch him at all. If rubbed up against you or sniffed, he would sit down or lay next to your feet. You would still have to reach with care. For precautionary measures, I would hold him by the collar and sometimes put my hand in his mouth to be sure that he wasn’t scared. He was very protective of himself. Even after all that, he loved kids. However, he never realized how big he was. If he made a baby or toddler cry because he was too rough, he would sometimes get depressed and run away from them and sometimes cry himself. Oh how I will always love him. Thanks for listening! Shun
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> Some friends of mine bought a Sheba two > summers ago. "Lucy" was the cutest pup. > But, she turned very aggressive,
The shiba can be aggressive toward other dogs. But they are generally not aggressive toward people. They are more aloof toward strangers and will sometimes jump just out of reach when you try to pet them. A people aggressive shiba was inadvertantly trained that way. Puppies like to nip and chew on extraneous body parts, and if you don’t train them to stop early on it’s very difficult to get to them stop when they’re older. and > IMO, was not trained properly to > "listen" to commands.
No. That is a quirk of the breed. They are like teenagers and have selective hearing. This is why most shibas should never be allowed to run off leash unless they are in a fenced area they cannot get out of. Even the best trained shiba will turn a deaf ear when you call it if it wants to stay outside and play. The training was > also probably the reason for her lack of > house breaking habits,
Yes, that is a poorly trained dog. Shibas are very easily housebroken. Bushido was housebroken in three days. But I kept him in a crate when we weren’t playing with him, and he was taken outside every two hours and praised lavishly when he’d go potty outside. A Shiba will usually run in tight little circles when he wants to go outside to do his business, and if you don’t know to look for that sign when he is a puppy, he’s going to continue to have accidents in the house. as well as > "nipping" *anyone* who walked by her (as > she got older). I recently saw her, and > she seemed to have calmed down quite a > bit.
They calm down after a couple of years. The first year and a half with a shiba puppy is pretty rough. They go through the Terrible Teens, and then some! They challenge your position in the pack, they don’t always listen to you, and they will act cute at you when they’re in trouble for doing something. They are a very sensitive and intelligent dog, and as long as you understand what the dog is up to and thinking about, you should be fine with a shiba. I think after your beloved > Mandingo, you could handle just about > any little junior "bear". Oh, and Lucy > definitely had the perky ears and curly > (big time curly Q) tail!!
That’s part of a shiba’s charm. Marianne — http://www.dewlap.com/shiba
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