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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You missed the German Pinscher. > In the past I’ve had a webpage on rare dog breeds > but I got rid of it for different reasons. Anyway > I’ve decide to start it again and include lists of > every breeds. I have the terrier list done now. > Some of the breeds are extinct, some are just > strains, and some are scams. I was wondering > if someone would like to check it out for me and > see if I’ve forgot any breeds or made any > mistakes. Thank you. > Aberdeen terrier (England) > Abyssian sand terrier (Unknown) > Affenpinscher (Germany) > Airedale terrier (England) > Alunk (India) > American feist (US) > American hairless terrier (US) > American pit bull terrier (US) > American soft-coated wheaten terrier (US) > American Staffordshire terrier (US) > American toy terrier (US) > American treeing terrier (US) > American tunnel terrier (US) > Australian silky terrier (Australia) > Australian terrier (Australia) > Austrian pinscher (Austria) > Bedlington terrier (England) > Belgian griffon (Belgium) > Belgrade terrier (former Yugoslavia) > Bench legged feist (US) > Black Airedale terrier (England) > Black and tan hunt terrier (England) > Black-and-tan toy terrier (England) > Black and white Yorkshire terrier (Germany) > Black Russian terrier (Russia) > Bordel (India) > Border terrier (England) > Boston terrier (US) > Brazilian terrier (Brazil) > Brown stock feist (US) > Brussels griffon (Belgium) > Bull terrier (England) > Cairn terrier (England) > Cajun squirrel dog (US) > Ca ratter (Spain) > Catahoula bull terrier (US) > Catahoula pit bull terrier (US) > Cheshire terrier (England) > Chilean terrier (Chile) > Cyldesdale terrier (England) > Czesky terrier (former Czechoslavakia) > Dandie Dinmont terrier (England) > Decker giant terrier (US) > Den terrier (US) > Denmark feist (US) > Devon terrier (England) > Dutch smoushond (Holland) > English soft-coated wheaten terrier (England) > Falkner terrier (US) > German jagdterrier (Germany) > Glen of Imaal terrier (Ireland) > Griffon d’ecurie (Belgium) > Guatemalan bull terrier (Guatemala) > Harlequin pinscher (Germany) > Irish soft-coated wheaten terrier (England) > Irish Staffordshire terrier (Ireland) > Irish terrier (Ireland) > Jack Russell terrier (England) > Japanese terrier (Japan) > Johnson terrier (England) > Kemmer feist (US) > Kenneth Beaty feist (US) > Kerry blue terrier (Ireland) > Kromfohrlander (Germany) > Lady Di terrier (US) > Lakeland terrier (England) > Liberian terrier (Liberia) > Limbgripper feist (US) > Log cabin feist (US) > Lucas terrier (England) > Manchester terrier (England) > Miniature bull terrier (England) > Miniature pinscher (Germany) > Miniature schnauzer (Germany) > Moscow toy terrier (Russia) > Mountain feist (US) > Mullins’ feist (US) > Naga chow (India) > Norfolk terrier (England) > Norwich terrier (England) > Old English broken black-and-tan terrier (England) > Old Scotch terrier (England) > Olde tyme Staffordshire bull terrier (England) > Paisley terrier (England) > Pannell line feist (US) > Papuas terrier (New Guinea) > Parson Jack Russell terrier (England) > Patterdale terrier (England) > Pencil-tail feist (US) > Perro ratonero andaluz (Spain) > Petit brabancon (Belgium) > Pinscher (Germany) > Pittenweem terrier (England) > Plummer terrier (England) > Pockett rockett feist (US) > Poltalloch terrier (England) > Prazsky kryzavik (former Czechoslavakia) > Rat terrier (US) > Rillington Bedlington terrier (England) > River run feist (US) > Roseneath terrier (England) > Rothbury terrier (England) > Scottish terrier (England) > Sealydale terrier (South Africa) > Sealyham terrier (England) > Shropshire terrier (England) > Silky terrier (Australia) > Skye terrier (England) > Smooth fox terrier (England) > Snowball feist (US) > Sommerset terrier (England) > Sonkutta (India) > Squirrel feist (US) > Squirrel/leopard terrier (US) > Staffordshire bull terrier (England) > Swiss shorthaired pinscher (Switzerland) > Teddy Roosevelt terrier (US) > Tenterfield terrier (Australia) > Texas terrier (US) > Thick set Yorkshire terrier (US) > Thornburg feist (US) > Titan terrier (Germany) > Treeing feist (US) > Trumpington terrier (England) > Toy terrier (England) > Waterside terrier (England) > Welsh terrier (England) > West highland white terrier (England) > White English terrier (England) > White fell terrier (England) > Wire fox terrier (England) > Yankee bull terrier (US) > Yankee terrier (US) > Yorkshire terrier (England) > Thanks for anyone that looks over this and sorry > about the length of this message. I plan to > include information on all of these breeds on my > webpage. > Iguanabbq > Before you buy. > Before you buy.
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:You just mentioned 17 scams, :some of which I have on my list. :After the Hols I will update it. Things like the coypu hunting Pit Bull X working terrier crosses aren’t scams. They are, like lurchers, crosses that are specially bred to do a job better than existing breeds can, and haven’t, to my knowledge, been marketed to pet homes at all, let alone in "scamworthy" numbers. That is also true of the Rat Terrier and other working terrier-based Feists. The only place I see them discussed much at all are in places like _Full Cry_, ie publications directed at people interested not just in working breeds, but actually honest-to-god work-for-a- living DOGS. And the biggest scam is the overmarketing of Jack Russells to pet homes in fluffy pubs like _Dog Fancy_. JohnR Pit Bull Libertarian Never sneer at the power of a little pink squeaky toy!
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You missed the German Pinscher. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > In the past I’ve had a webpage on rare dog breeds > but I got rid of it for different reasons. Anyway > I’ve decide to start it again and include lists of > every breeds. I have the terrier list done now. > Some of the breeds are extinct, some are just > strains, and some are scams. I was wondering > if someone would like to check it out for me and > see if I’ve forgot any breeds or made any > mistakes. Thank you. > Aberdeen terrier (England) > Abyssian sand terrier (Unknown) > Affenpinscher (Germany) > Airedale terrier (England) > Alunk (India) > American feist (US) > American hairless terrier (US) > American pit bull terrier (US) > American soft-coated wheaten terrier (US) > American Staffordshire terrier (US) > American toy terrier (US) > American treeing terrier (US) > American tunnel terrier (US) > Australian silky terrier (Australia) > Australian terrier (Australia) > Austrian pinscher (Austria) > Bedlington terrier (England) > Belgian griffon (Belgium) > Belgrade terrier (former Yugoslavia) > Bench legged feist (US) > Black Airedale terrier (England) > Black and tan hunt terrier (England) > Black-and-tan toy terrier (England) > Black and white Yorkshire terrier (Germany) > Black Russian terrier (Russia) > Bordel (India) > Border terrier (England) > Boston terrier (US) > Brazilian terrier (Brazil) > Brown stock feist (US) > Brussels griffon (Belgium) > Bull terrier (England) > Cairn terrier (England) > Cajun squirrel dog (US) > Ca ratter (Spain) > Catahoula bull terrier (US) > Catahoula pit bull terrier (US) > Cheshire terrier (England) > Chilean terrier (Chile) > Cyldesdale terrier (England) > Czesky terrier (former Czechoslavakia) > Dandie Dinmont terrier (England) > Decker giant terrier (US) > Den terrier (US) > Denmark feist (US) > Devon terrier (England) > Dutch smoushond (Holland) > English soft-coated wheaten terrier (England) > Falkner terrier (US) > German jagdterrier (Germany) > Glen of Imaal terrier (Ireland) > Griffon d’ecurie (Belgium) > Guatemalan bull terrier (Guatemala) > Harlequin pinscher (Germany) > Irish soft-coated wheaten terrier (England) > Irish Staffordshire terrier (Ireland) > Irish terrier (Ireland) > Jack Russell terrier (England) > Japanese terrier (Japan) > Johnson terrier (England) > Kemmer feist (US) > Kenneth Beaty feist (US) > Kerry blue terrier (Ireland) > Kromfohrlander (Germany) > Lady Di terrier (US) > Lakeland terrier (England) > Liberian terrier (Liberia) > Limbgripper feist (US) > Log cabin feist (US) > Lucas terrier (England) > Manchester terrier (England) > Miniature bull terrier (England) > Miniature pinscher (Germany) > Miniature schnauzer (Germany) > Moscow toy terrier (Russia) > Mountain feist (US) > Mullins’ feist (US) > Naga chow (India) > Norfolk terrier (England) > Norwich terrier (England) > Old English broken black-and-tan terrier (England) > Old Scotch terrier (England) > Olde tyme Staffordshire bull terrier (England) > Paisley terrier (England) > Pannell line feist (US) > Papuas terrier (New Guinea) > Parson Jack Russell terrier (England) > Patterdale terrier (England) > Pencil-tail feist (US) > Perro ratonero andaluz (Spain) > Petit brabancon (Belgium) > Pinscher (Germany) > Pittenweem terrier (England) > Plummer terrier (England) > Pockett rockett feist (US) > Poltalloch terrier (England) > Prazsky kryzavik (former Czechoslavakia) > Rat terrier (US) > Rillington Bedlington terrier (England) > River run feist (US) > Roseneath terrier (England) > Rothbury terrier (England) > Scottish terrier (England) > Sealydale terrier (South Africa) > Sealyham terrier (England) > Shropshire terrier (England) > Silky terrier (Australia) > Skye terrier (England) > Smooth fox terrier (England) > Snowball feist (US) > Sommerset terrier (England) > Sonkutta (India) > Squirrel feist (US) > Squirrel/leopard terrier (US) > Staffordshire bull terrier (England) > Swiss shorthaired pinscher (Switzerland) > Teddy Roosevelt terrier (US) > Tenterfield terrier (Australia) > Texas terrier (US) > Thick set Yorkshire terrier (US) > Thornburg feist (US) > Titan terrier (Germany) > Treeing feist (US) > Trumpington terrier (England) > Toy terrier (England) > Waterside terrier (England) > Welsh terrier (England) > West highland white terrier (England) > White English terrier (England) > White fell terrier (England) > Wire fox terrier (England) > Yankee bull terrier (US) > Yankee terrier (US) > Yorkshire terrier (England) > Thanks for anyone that looks over this and sorry > about the length of this message. I plan to > include information on all of these breeds on my > webpage. > Iguanabbq > Before you buy.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I have some additions to my list. I’m not going to repost the whole >list just the new ones. I have changed England to the UK among some >other things. I may repost some other time if anyone cares. Anyway here >goes. >Alaskan terrier (US) >Coypu hunting terrier (US) >Creeper terrier (US) >Giants pit bull terrier (US) >McCamBro feist (US) >Micro miniature schnauzer (US) >Oorang Airedale terrier (US) >Pitpatter terrier (US) >I also have some questions for any one that reads this. There are a >bunch of crossbreeds/scams that I’ve heard of but I’m unsure of whether >they are common enough to mention. If they are pretty common do they >still retain a terrier type appearance?I hoping someone can let me know >about these. >Jack rat terrier >Jack feist >Rat feist >Snowball fox terrier >Yorkie poo >Charlee bear >Pussell >Russell bull terrier >Silky Yorkshire terrier >If you’ve heard of these and think they belong please let me know. Also >if you know of any more common and popular terrier crossbreeds. Thanks >in advance. >Iguanabbq
You just mentioned 17 scams, some of which I have on my list. After the Hols I will update it. Liz
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In article – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A couple books I’ve read had entries for them as seperate breeds. They > said that the silky descended from crossing of the Skye, cairn, and > Yorkshire. Th standard was set in 1962 and updated in 1967. The > Australian silky was developed by crossing the Yorkshire and Australian > terriers. It’s standard was set in 1933. There are other differences so > just let me know if you want to know more. > Just checked the AKC and Silky Terrier Club of America. We might be > dealing with an evolution of the name rather than a different breed: > "Developed around the turn of the century in Australia from crossings of > native Australian Terriers and imported Yorkshire Terriers,… > "Originally known as the Sydney Silky Terrier, in 1955 the official name > for the breed became the Australian Silky Terrier. > "The first official meeting of the Sydney Silky Terrier Club of America > was held on March 25, 1955, and in July of that year, the name was changed > by a vote of its members to Silky Terrier Club of America." > http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/silter.cfm > The Australians still use the longer name, though the Americans have moved > toward the shorter. But as far as I can tell from the web pages and their > links, they are regarded as the same breed. > By the way, 1962 is when the STCA was incorporated (and probably wrote up > the standards as part of its by laws). Prior to incorporation and > recogniticion of the club by the AKC, American Silky owners were > registering their dogs in Australia. > Paul
Thanks for the info Paul. I’ve been trying to look up different sites on the internet but they al led to the same breed. So between me and you I think we’ve proved the book wrong. I’ve taken the silky terrier off of the list and kept the Australian silky terrier. Thanks. Iguanabbq Before you buy.
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I have some additions to my list. I’m not going to repost the whole list just the new ones. I have changed England to the UK among some other things. I may repost some other time if anyone cares. Anyway here goes. Alaskan terrier (US) Coypu hunting terrier (US) Creeper terrier (US) Giants pit bull terrier (US) McCamBro feist (US) Micro miniature schnauzer (US) Oorang Airedale terrier (US) Pitpatter terrier (US) I also have some questions for any one that reads this. There are a bunch of crossbreeds/scams that I’ve heard of but I’m unsure of whether they are common enough to mention. If they are pretty common do they still retain a terrier type appearance?I hoping someone can let me know about these. Jack rat terrier Jack feist Rat feist Snowball fox terrier Yorkie poo Charlee bear Pussell Russell bull terrier Silky Yorkshire terrier If you’ve heard of these and think they belong please let me know. Also if you know of any more common and popular terrier crossbreeds. Thanks in advance. Iguanabbq Before you buy.
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> A couple books I’ve read had entries for them as seperate breeds. They > said that the silky descended from crossing of the Skye, cairn, and > Yorkshire. Th standard was set in 1962 and updated in 1967. The > Australian silky was developed by crossing the Yorkshire and Australian > terriers. It’s standard was set in 1933. There are other differences so > just let me know if you want to know more.
Just checked the AKC and Silky Terrier Club of America. We might be dealing with an evolution of the name rather than a different breed: "Developed around the turn of the century in Australia from crossings of native Australian Terriers and imported Yorkshire Terriers,… "Originally known as the Sydney Silky Terrier, in 1955 the official name for the breed became the Australian Silky Terrier. "The first official meeting of the Sydney Silky Terrier Club of America was held on March 25, 1955, and in July of that year, the name was changed by a vote of its members to Silky Terrier Club of America." http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/silter.cfm The Australians still use the longer name, though the Americans have moved toward the shorter. But as far as I can tell from the web pages and their links, they are regarded as the same breed. By the way, 1962 is when the STCA was incorporated (and probably wrote up the standards as part of its by laws). Prior to incorporation and recogniticion of the club by the AKC, American Silky owners were registering their dogs in Australia. Paul
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> What’s the difference between the Australian silky and the Silky?
Stand them side by side and you won’t have a bit of trouble seeing the differences. In a nutshell– Australian Terrier (shown as a Terrier) has a visibly more wiry coat, and is a bit heavier set, weighing more. The Silky Terrier (shown as a Toy) has longer, more silky coat, and is not quite as heavy per inch. Many other differences (head, ears, etc.) but these are the easiest to spot. — Toni www.irish-wolfhounds.com
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I’m well aware of the difference between the Australian Terrier (I have one) and the Silky Terrier. But the list also included an entry for ‘Australian silky’. I was wondering if that was a duplicate. Paul – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What’s the difference between the Australian silky and the Silky? > Stand them side by side and you won’t have a bit of trouble seeing the > differences. > In a nutshell– > Australian Terrier (shown as a Terrier) has a visibly more wiry coat, and is > a bit heavier set, weighing more. > The Silky Terrier (shown as a Toy) has longer, more silky coat, and is not > quite as heavy per inch.
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In article <Pine.OSF.4.10.9912081724450.6528- > What’s the difference between the Australian silky and the Silky?
A couple books I’ve read had entries for them as seperate breeds. They said that the silky descended from crossing of the Skye, cairn, and Yorkshire. Th standard was set in 1962 and updated in 1967. The Australian silky was developed by crossing the Yorkshire and Australian terriers. It’s standard was set in 1933. There are other differences so just let me know if you want to know more. Iguanabbq Before you buy.
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>> Alaskan Terrier, being a Jack Russell x. Alaskan Malamute cross. > ~Emily >Thanks for the advice. I’m guessing this is a recent cross and possibly >a scam but what do I know. I’m going to add it anyway. Do you know >anything about the Alaskan terrier that you could tell me?
They’re a first generation cross of Alaskan Malamute and Jack Russell Terrier. Not much more to it besides that they’re similar to cock-a-poos and other such scam breeds. ~Em
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> They’re a first generation cross of Alaskan Malamute and Jack Russell > Terrier. Not much more to it besides that they’re similar to cock-a-poos > and other such scam breeds.
And God knows, the world desperately needs a 100 lb. JRT! — Toni www.irish-wolfhounds.com
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Oh, the horror. Oh my. The very thought makes me feel ill. I love my JRT, but… 100 lb.’s of her? The damage a dog like THAT could do…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > And God knows, the world desperately needs a 100 lb. JRT! > — > Toni > www.irish-wolfhounds.com
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> Australian silky terrier (Australia) > Australian terrier (Australia) > Silky terrier (Australia)
What’s the difference between the Australian silky and the Silky? Histories of the Australian Terrier claim that one of the breed’s earliest names was ‘Tasmanian broken hair terrier’. I don’t recall seeing Tibetian terrier on your list. I realize that it is a terrier in name only, and doesn’t have any British roots. But that may be true of a number of other ones on your list. Paul
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>In the past I’ve had a webpage on rare dog breeds >but I got rid of it for different reasons. Anyway >I’ve decide to start it again and include lists of >every breeds. I have the terrier list done now. >Some of the breeds are extinct, some are just >strains, and some are scams. I was wondering >if someone would like to check it out for me and >see if I’ve forgot any breeds or made any >mistakes. Thank you.
Alaskan Terrier, being a Jack Russell x. Alaskan Malamute cross. ~Emily
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>Some breeders are breeding for what they call the original Scottish >terrier. It’s shorter and stockier than the Scottish and is being called >the Aberdeen.
The problem is whether to call it British, as I believe it’s only Americans that are doing this. >This is an all black Airedale that is also larger and heavier. I think >that it was caused by crossbreeding but I can’t be sure because I can’t >find out anything about its origin.
I’ve not encountered it. > >Black-and-tan toy terrier (England) > Another name for the Manchester Terrier. >I’ve seen many different books listing the black-and-tan toy terrier and >the toy terrier as seperate strains if not breeds.
That sort of thing tends to go back to the days when there were multiple ways of referring to a breed. >I did spell Clydesdale wrong. I have heard that it and the Paisley were >different breeds.
In a sense, I suppose, same dog bred in two locales. > There’s no difference. The KC recognises it just as the Soft Coated > Wheaten Terrier – it’s an Irish dog. >I thought that there were slight differences between both of these and >also with the soft coated in the US. I was considering them strains and >wanted to tell people about their differences.
Technically they are the same. In practice, American dogs differ from UK dogs which differ from European dogs etc, but that’s true of all breeds not just this one. The emphasis breeders place on different features vary depending on where you are. >I hadn’t heard anything about a pictorial. I had heard that the Johnson >terrier was a strain of fell terrier that possibly had some >Staffordshire bull terrier blood added. They are blue in color and have >a bully type head.
Could well have been, there were dozens of fell terrier variations, all named after the breeder or area. Not sure whether they can be considered a breed. >Do you mean that the dogs in the US are not the same type as the ones >that used to be in the UK?
It unlikely that they would be the same. These early terriers were bred using a constant blend of outside blood – which gave them rather a lot of variation. > >Old English broken black-and-tan terrier (England) >This is an extinct ancestor of some of the terrier breeds.
I doubt then that it would ever have had ‘Old English’ in the name. That tends to be an overseas addition. >A kennel club in the UK that on deals with bull and terrier breeds says >it deals with Irish Staffordshire bull terrier and olde tyme >Staffordshire bull terriers. I think it it was called the >Intercontinental Kennel Club. But I may be wrong. I’ll have to check.
There is only one Kennel Club in the UK. You might find an overseas kennel claiming this sort of breed. Same with the Irish Staffordshire – Ireland is Ireland and Staffordshire is a county in the Midlands of England. >This is one of three strains that led to the developement of the West >Highland white terrier. It was bred by Dr Flaxman from Fifeshire.
Ah. I see where you’re going with these now. The old terriers named after people and places were often more like the produce of the modern kennels rather than breeds, think of the names as affixes – just as I own a Seeswift greyhound and someone else may own a Windspiel greyhound and an educated eye may well be able to see the difference. At the end of the day, they’re still just greyhounds. >There are some scams on here. Maybe this should be on the scams breed >list.
He’s apparently aiming for a tough hunting terrier, as if there aren’t plenty already to choose from, including some wonderful hunting terriers bred in America. >This is also one of the three strains that let to the West Highland >white terrier. It is the main strain of those three.
It’s another one of those local kennels. >It is used to make lurchers, at least that’s what I heard. It’s a >Bedlington terrier with Border terrier blood along with working Lakeland >and Glen of Imaal blood. Could be other breeds mixed in too.
Its always hard to work out what’s going on in lurchers. I’m not sure I’d like to see what comes of these crosses once you add the sighthound to them to make the lurchers! >The third strain leading to the West Higland white. This one was bred by > George Clark, who worked on the Duke of Argyll’s estate.
Essentially another kennel name – Roseneath is the name of the estate. >I’ve heard that it was the ancestor of the Bedlington.
Yep, it was renamed later. >This I was listing because it’s a white strain of fell terriers mixed >with Jack Russells. I have heard that the working Lakeland and the >Patterdale terrier are one breed at different extremes and the fell >terriers fell in between the two.
None of them have particularly strict characteristics. At the time, there were few breeds as such, and people just crossed whatever they thought would get them a dog for the purpose they had in mind. These were then named after the person, place or job but there’s massive variation. A fell terrier from one village would be quite different from one in a village up the road. This is particularly true of the terriers, which were the real working man’s dog. Some of the names even just refer to one dog or one litter, or terriers from a variety of breeds which do the same job. You’ll be glad to know that the English terriers are the most complicated group. Hounds are nearly as bad! >Thank you very much for your help Andrea. I appreciate it. I’ve hoped >I’ve explained to you why I did some of the things the way I did.
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>In the past I’ve had a webpage on rare dog breeds >but I got rid of it for different reasons. Anyway >I’ve decide to start it again and include lists of >every breeds. I have the terrier list done now. >Some of the breeds are extinct, some are just >strains, and some are scams. I was wondering >if someone would like to check it out for me and >see if I’ve forgot any breeds or made any >mistakes. Thank you. > Alaskan Terrier, being a Jack Russell x. Alaskan Malamute cross. > ~Emily
Thanks for the advice. I’m guessing this is a recent cross and possibly a scam but what do I know. I’m going to add it anyway. Do you know anything about the Alaskan terrier that you could tell me? Iguanabbq Before you buy.
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> I’ve gone over your ‘English’ list (although UK would be a better > description as some of these dogs are not English but Scottish or
Welsh. Thank you for your suggestions. I’ve changed all of the English breeds on my list to now read UK. Sorry about that mistake. >Aberdeen terrier (England) > Scottish – it’s what the Scottish Terrier used to be called. > Alternatively, there seems to be a terrier called an Aberdeen Terrier > recognised by clubs overseas, claimed to be a split from the early > Scotties, but it’s not recognised here.
Some breeders are breeding for what they call the original Scottish terrier. It’s shorter and stockier than the Scottish and is being called the Aberdeen. >Black Airedale terrier (England) > No such thing recognised in the UK – perhaps a regular Airedale with > poor colouring? Or maybe an overseas variation?
This is an all black Airedale that is also larger and heavier. I think that it was caused by crossbreeding but I can’t be sure because I can’t find out anything about its origin. >Black and tan hunt terrier (England) > As far as I am aware, this is an American development. It’s a variety of > what they call an English Jack Russell, originating with dogs of Irish > stock.
I saw this on a club for the Jack Russell and assumed it was from the UK. My mistake. >Black-and-tan toy terrier (England) > Another name for the Manchester Terrier.
I’ve seen many different books listing the black-and-tan toy terrier and the toy terrier as seperate strains if not breeds. >Cyldesdale terrier (England) > I think you probably meant to spell that ‘Clydesdale’. It’s another name > for the extinct Paisley.
I did spell Clydesdale wrong. I have heard that it and the Paisley were different breeds. >Devon terrier (England) > Doesn’t exist.
I thought it did exist but is now extinct. >English soft-coated wheaten terrier (England) >Irish soft-coated wheaten terrier (England) > There’s no difference. The KC recognises it just as the Soft Coated > Wheaten Terrier – it’s an Irish dog.
I thought that there were slight differences between both of these and also with the soft coated in the US. I was considering them strains and wanted to tell people about their differences. >Johnson terrier (England) > To the best of my knowledge this doesn’t exist. As best as I can find > out, in the 60s a pictorial of terriers and lurchers by a chap called > Johnson was published. It seems to be referred to as the Johnson Terrier > & Lurcher Pictorial, which may be source of this one.
I hadn’t heard anything about a pictorial. I had heard that the Johnson terrier was a strain of fell terrier that possibly had some Staffordshire bull terrier blood added. They are blue in color and have a bully type head. >Lucas terrier (England) > I think this one is extinct in the UK but I believe there is an American > variation.
Do you mean that the dogs in the US are not the same type as the ones that used to be in the UK? >Old English broken black-and-tan terrier (England) > With the exception of the Old English Sheepdog, anything preceded with > ‘old’ is probably using it as a selling point – along the lines of Ye > Olde English Tea Shoppe, it looks good but means little. I don’t know of > any KC reg breed other than the OES that uses this. Usually when you see > it, it’s either a fake breed or an overseas development.
This is an extinct ancestor of some of the terrier breeds. >Olde tyme Staffordshire bull terrier (England) > Doesn’t exist in the UK.
A kennel club in the UK that on deals with bull and terrier breeds says it deals with Irish Staffordshire bull terrier and olde tyme Staffordshire bull terriers. I think it it was called the Intercontinental Kennel Club. But I may be wrong. I’ll have to check. >Pittenweem terrier (England) > Doesn’t exist as far as I know, but could have been used to refer to a > type of local terrier.
This is one of three strains that led to the developement of the West Highland white terrier. It was bred by Dr Flaxman from Fifeshire. >Plummer terrier (England) > Plummer is a breeder. He’s come up with his ‘Plummer Terrier’. It’s the > British equivalent of the American made-up breeds, but not as widespread > – just about as far as he’s been able to hand out his pups.
There are some scams on here. Maybe this should be on the scams breed list. >Poltalloch terrier (England) > Now known as the West Highland White.
This is also one of the three strains that let to the West Highland white terrier. It is the main strain of those three. >Rillington Bedlington terrier (England) > I don’t think this is a breed. It may refer to a lurcher (sighthound > cross) that’s part Bedlington.
It is used to make lurchers, at least that’s what I heard. It’s a Bedlington terrier with Border terrier blood along with working Lakeland and Glen of Imaal blood. Could be other breeds mixed in too. >Roseneath terrier (England) > Another historic name for the West Highland White.
The third strain leading to the West Higland white. This one was bred by George Clark, who worked on the Duke of Argyll’s estate. >Rothbury terrier (England) > Another name for the Bedlington.
I’ve heard that it was the ancestor of the Bedlington. >White fell terrier (England) > The Fell Terrier is another name for the Patterdale, but there’s no such > breed as the White Fell Terrier.
This I was listing because it’s a white strain of fell terriers mixed with Jack Russells. I have heard that the working Lakeland and the Patterdale terrier are one breed at different extremes and the fell terriers fell in between the two. > Hope this helps. > – ANDREA
Thank you very much for your help Andrea. I appreciate it. I’ve hoped I’ve explained to you why I did some of the things the way I did. Iguanabbq Before you buy.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well, I didn’t have time to go through your whole list but you did make a > mistake on my dog’s breed… >American soft-coated wheaten terrier (US) > There is no "American" in front of the breed name, and for good reason.. it > is an Irish breed. I can see how you could be confused, because people > often refer to "American wheatens". American here is not part of the name, > but rather describing the type of coat (American lines have bred a far more > plush coat, whist Irish lines have a silkier coat texture). > Hope that helps > — Danae & Tucker (my coat is so plush people mistake me for a teddy bear!)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well, I didn’t have time to go through your whole list but you did make a > mistake on my dog’s breed… >American soft-coated wheaten terrier (US) > There is no "American" in front of the breed name, and for good reason.. it > is an Irish breed. I can see how you could be confused, because people > often refer to "American wheatens". American here is not part of the name, > but rather describing the type of coat (American lines have bred a far more > plush coat, whist Irish lines have a silkier coat texture).
Thank you for your help. I actually listed the American wheaten, Irish wheaten, and English wheaten because there are variations between them and I was considering them strains and hoped to tell people about the slight differences between them. Iguanabbq Before you buy.
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Well, I didn’t have time to go through your whole list but you did make a mistake on my dog’s breed… >American soft-coated wheaten terrier (US)
There is no "American" in front of the breed name, and for good reason.. it is an Irish breed. I can see how you could be confused, because people often refer to "American wheatens". American here is not part of the name, but rather describing the type of coat (American lines have bred a far more plush coat, whist Irish lines have a silkier coat texture). Hope that helps — Danae & Tucker (my coat is so plush people mistake me for a teddy bear!)
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>Some of the breeds are extinct, some are just >strains, and some are scams. I was wondering >if someone would like to check it out for me and >see if I’ve forgot any breeds or made any >mistakes. Thank you.
I’ve gone over your ‘English’ list (although UK would be a better description as some of these dogs are not English but Scottish or Welsh. Those recognised by the UK Kennel Club I’ve just marked KC. >Aberdeen terrier (England)
Scottish – it’s what the Scottish Terrier used to be called. Alternatively, there seems to be a terrier called an Aberdeen Terrier recognised by clubs overseas, claimed to be a split from the early Scotties, but it’s not recognised here. >Airedale terrier (England) KC >Bedlington terrier (England) KC >Black Airedale terrier (England)
No such thing recognised in the UK – perhaps a regular Airedale with poor colouring? Or maybe an overseas variation? >Black and tan hunt terrier (England)
As far as I am aware, this is an American development. It’s a variety of what they call an English Jack Russell, originating with dogs of Irish stock. >Black-and-tan toy terrier (England)
Another name for the Manchester Terrier. >Border terrier (England) KC >Bull terrier (England) KC >Cairn terrier (England) KC >Cheshire terrier (England)
Extinct. >Cyldesdale terrier (England)
I think you probably meant to spell that ‘Clydesdale’. It’s another name for the extinct Paisley. >Dandie Dinmont terrier (England) KC >Devon terrier (England)
Doesn’t exist. >English soft-coated wheaten terrier (England) >Irish soft-coated wheaten terrier (England)
There’s no difference. The KC recognises it just as the Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier – it’s an Irish dog. >Jack Russell terrier (England)
Unrecognised by the KC. Most people consider it a distinct breed, although in common usage the name is often used to refer to a type. >Johnson terrier (England)
To the best of my knowledge this doesn’t exist. As best as I can find out, in the 60s a pictorial of terriers and lurchers by a chap called Johnson was published. It seems to be referred to as the Johnson Terrier & Lurcher Pictorial, which may be source of this one. >Lakeland terrier (England) KC >Lucas terrier (England)
I think this one is extinct in the UK but I believe there is an American variation. >Manchester terrier (England) KC >Miniature bull terrier (England) KC >Norfolk terrier (England) KC >Norwich terrier (England) KC >Old English broken black-and-tan terrier (England)
With the exception of the Old English Sheepdog, anything preceded with ‘old’ is probably using it as a selling point – along the lines of Ye Olde English Tea Shoppe, it looks good but means little. I don’t know of any KC reg breed other than the OES that uses this. Usually when you see it, it’s either a fake breed or an overseas development. >Old Scotch terrier (England)
I imagine this refers to what used to be called Scotch Terriers. Scotch Terrier was a catch-all term used to refer to the terriers brought by Scottish immigrants – in reality a variety of different terriers including the Clydesdale and Paisley. >Olde tyme Staffordshire bull terrier (England)
Doesn’t exist in the UK. >Paisley terrier (England)
Extinct. >Parson Jack Russell terrier (England) KC >Patterdale terrier (England)
This is only recognised as a breed outside the UK. Here it refers to a type of dog rather than a breed. >Pittenweem terrier (England)
Doesn’t exist as far as I know, but could have been used to refer to a type of local terrier. >Plummer terrier (England)
Plummer is a breeder. He’s come up with his ‘Plummer Terrier’. It’s the British equivalent of the American made-up breeds, but not as widespread – just about as far as he’s been able to hand out his pups. >Poltalloch terrier (England)
Now known as the West Highland White. >Rillington Bedlington terrier (England)
I don’t think this is a breed. It may refer to a lurcher (sighthound cross) that’s part Bedlington. >Roseneath terrier (England)
Another historic name for the West Highland White. >Rothbury terrier (England)
Another name for the Bedlington. >Scottish terrier (England) KC >Sealyham terrier (England) KC >Shropshire terrier (England)
I don’t think this exists. It was used to refer to a type of dog which was noted for hereditary deafness, but I doubt it’s a breed. >Skye terrier (England) KC >Smooth fox terrier (England) KC >Sommerset terrier (England)
Doesn’t exist. If it ever did, it was probably spelt ‘Somerset’ or developed overseas. >Staffordshire bull terrier (England) KC >Trumpington terrier (England)
In the 1800s it referred to a type of small crossbreed with red or black and tan coats. >Toy terrier (England) KC
Normally called the English Toy Terrier. >Waterside terrier (England)
The early name for the Airedale, before it was crossed with the Otterhound. >Welsh terrier (England) KC >West highland white terrier (England) KC >White English terrier (England)
Extinct. >White fell terrier (England)
The Fell Terrier is another name for the Patterdale, but there’s no such breed as the White Fell Terrier. >Wire fox terrier (England) KC >Yorkshire terrier (England) KC
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In the past I’ve had a webpage on rare dog breeds but I got rid of it for different reasons. Anyway I’ve decide to start it again and include lists of every breeds. I have the terrier list done now. Some of the breeds are extinct, some are just strains, and some are scams. I was wondering if someone would like to check it out for me and see if I’ve forgot any breeds or made any mistakes. Thank you. Aberdeen terrier (England) Abyssian sand terrier (Unknown) Affenpinscher (Germany) Airedale terrier (England) Alunk (India) American feist (US) American hairless terrier (US) American pit bull terrier (US) American soft-coated wheaten terrier (US) American Staffordshire terrier (US) American toy terrier (US) American treeing terrier (US) American tunnel terrier (US) Australian silky terrier (Australia) Australian terrier (Australia) Austrian pinscher (Austria) Bedlington terrier (England) Belgian griffon (Belgium) Belgrade terrier (former Yugoslavia) Bench legged feist (US) Black Airedale terrier (England) Black and tan hunt terrier (England) Black-and-tan toy terrier (England) Black and white Yorkshire terrier (Germany) Black Russian terrier (Russia) Bordel (India) Border terrier (England) Boston terrier (US) Brazilian terrier (Brazil) Brown stock feist (US) Brussels griffon (Belgium) Bull terrier (England) Cairn terrier (England) Cajun squirrel dog (US) Ca ratter (Spain) Catahoula bull terrier (US) Catahoula pit bull terrier (US) Cheshire terrier (England) Chilean terrier (Chile) Cyldesdale terrier (England) Czesky terrier (former Czechoslavakia) Dandie Dinmont terrier (England) Decker giant terrier (US) Den terrier (US) Denmark feist (US) Devon terrier (England) Dutch smoushond (Holland) English soft-coated wheaten terrier (England) Falkner terrier (US) German jagdterrier (Germany) Glen of Imaal terrier (Ireland) Griffon d’ecurie (Belgium) Guatemalan bull terrier (Guatemala) Harlequin pinscher (Germany) Irish soft-coated wheaten terrier (England) Irish Staffordshire terrier (Ireland) Irish terrier (Ireland) Jack Russell terrier (England) Japanese terrier (Japan) Johnson terrier (England) Kemmer feist (US) Kenneth Beaty feist (US) Kerry blue terrier (Ireland) Kromfohrlander (Germany) Lady Di terrier (US) Lakeland terrier (England) Liberian terrier (Liberia) Limbgripper feist (US) Log cabin feist (US) Lucas terrier (England) Manchester terrier (England) Miniature bull terrier (England) Miniature pinscher (Germany) Miniature schnauzer (Germany) Moscow toy terrier (Russia) Mountain feist (US) Mullins’ feist (US) Naga chow (India) Norfolk terrier (England) Norwich terrier (England) Old English broken black-and-tan terrier (England) Old Scotch terrier (England) Olde tyme Staffordshire bull terrier (England) Paisley terrier (England) Pannell line feist (US) Papuas terrier (New Guinea) Parson Jack Russell terrier (England) Patterdale terrier (England) Pencil-tail feist (US) Perro ratonero andaluz (Spain) Petit brabancon (Belgium) Pinscher (Germany) Pittenweem terrier (England) Plummer terrier (England) Pockett rockett feist (US) Poltalloch terrier (England) Prazsky kryzavik (former Czechoslavakia) Rat terrier (US) Rillington Bedlington terrier (England) River run feist (US) Roseneath terrier (England) Rothbury terrier (England) Scottish terrier (England) Sealydale terrier (South Africa) Sealyham terrier (England) Shropshire terrier (England) Silky terrier (Australia) Skye terrier (England) Smooth fox terrier (England) Snowball feist (US) Sommerset terrier (England) Sonkutta (India) Squirrel feist (US) Squirrel/leopard terrier (US) Staffordshire bull terrier (England) Swiss shorthaired pinscher (Switzerland) Teddy Roosevelt terrier (US) Tenterfield terrier (Australia) Texas terrier (US) Thick set Yorkshire terrier (US) Thornburg feist (US) Titan terrier (Germany) Treeing feist (US) Trumpington terrier (England) Toy terrier (England) Waterside terrier (England) Welsh terrier (England) West highland white terrier (England) White English terrier (England) White fell terrier (England) Wire fox terrier (England) Yankee bull terrier (US) Yankee terrier (US) Yorkshire terrier (England) Thanks for anyone that looks over this and sorry about the length of this message. I plan to include information on all of these breeds on my webpage. Iguanabbq Before you buy.
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